Talk:USS Fitzgerald

Ship's crest

Is "crest" the usual terminology for the badge/coat of arms in the USN? Heraldicly it's of course not correct, as is especially clear here when the article ends up talking about the (heraldic) crest as part of the coat of arms as part of... the ship's crest. If it's the predominant usage in practice though, we're probably stuck with it. If not, wouldn't it be much clearer to say "badge", or something? Alai 16:49, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

The collision

... should be at the bottom of the history section. If anywhere yet, because it's too early to report on this incident in an "enclopedia" - which this obviously is not. 98.194.39.86 (talk) 01:56, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

• Getting run into by a container ship, with serious damage, some berthing compartments flooded, multiple serious injuries, and 7 sailors missing? Do you think this is not worth mentioning in the article about the ship? Edison (talk) 02:37, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
  • He said it was "too early" and did not say "not worth mentioning", clearly he doesn't know that Wikipedia has become the place to find concise and summarized info about current events (I use it so) and he is thinking about old-style encyclopedias. --DelftUser (talk) 12:02, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

Damage to Starboard would indicate that the Destroyer did cross the Boxcarriers course from the left and thus was in a "give way" position. ( Going further all parties have to actively avoid a collision even if the rules are broken .. ) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.57.204.183 (talk) 16:52, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

• Damage to starboard can also be done by an overtaking vessel approaching from the starboard quarter and thus the Cargo could be the give way vessel. The difference between a Crossing and an Overtaking situation is a matter of whether the other vessel is approaching at 22.5 degree abaft the beam, or less. This is a matter of investigation to determine and damage to Fitzgerald's starboard side does NOT in itself confirm that it was the Give Way vessel. Way too much speculation on the behalf of idjits who only think they know what they are talking about because they took a few seconds to look something up on the internet without real understanding of the matter.

Cg23sailor (talk) 06:34, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

I don't think the collision should be in the Lede. Makes the article read more like a newspaper and less like an encyclopeida.2001:AC8:23:6:0:0:0:1E (talk) 17:24, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

ACX Crystal

Particulars on this vessel can be found at http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/shipid:722169/mmsi:548789000/imo:9360611/vessel:ACX_CRYSTAL

Kablammo (talk) 02:07, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

Brad Lendon of CNN[1] and other sources are confusing gross tonnage with displacement. We should stick to the marinetraffic.com site linked above. Kablammo (talk) 12:23, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

And the BBC gets it wrong too. Somehow I expected better from the BBC. Kablammo (talk) 01:28, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

And The Guardian Kablammo (talk) 17:33, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

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If you're adding to the Collision section, consider adding to the Collision article instead

Hi, all. The June 17 collision has its own Wikipedia article; if you're inclined to add info to the ship's page, consider making the edits to the collision page instead. PRRfan (talk) 17:21, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Reliable Details on the Collision

I left Youtube comment sections and came here looking for solid information on the collision and how/why it might have happened, only to find that it's "under investigation". There are allegations of a cover-up being thrown around. Given that this collision is the primary reason why anyone would consider the ship to be noteworthy, the most important aspect of the collision is either why/how it happened, and/or why the US Government might be interested in withholding this information from the public. Terrorist attack? Incompetent or mentally unbalanced Commanding Officer? Failed technology (RADAR, or whatever). Any information that grounds this article would serve to IMPROVE THE ARTICLE.2001:AC8:23:6:0:0:0:1E (talk) 17:31, 9 July 2017 (UTC)