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:Ironically, this source contradicts the claim you made [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_cities_in_Somalia_by_population&diff=797170512&oldid=797163141 minutes ago] regarding Garoowe's population where you claimed its 250,000. The source you are using now states 60,000 as a population figure for Garoowe (within the same sentence commenting on Bosaso's population). For the last time, please cease the disruptive editing. --[[User:Kzl55|Kzl55]] ([[User talk:Kzl55|talk]]) 11:24, 25 August 2017 (UTC) |
:Ironically, this source contradicts the claim you made [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_cities_in_Somalia_by_population&diff=797170512&oldid=797163141 minutes ago] regarding Garoowe's population where you claimed its 250,000. The source you are using now states 60,000 as a population figure for Garoowe (within the same sentence commenting on Bosaso's population). For the last time, please cease the disruptive editing. --[[User:Kzl55|Kzl55]] ([[User talk:Kzl55|talk]]) 11:24, 25 August 2017 (UTC) |
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Why are you refusing the up to date book source that says the city of bosaso has 500,000 ? |
Why are you refusing the up to date book source that says the city of bosaso has 500,000 ? [[User:Faarax200|Faarax200]] ([[User talk:Faarax200|talk]]) 11:26, 25 August 2017 (UTC) |
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Is the common English spelling "Bosaso" or "Boosaaso?" The former is used throughout this article. If this is the accepted English spelling, I propose we move the article to "Bosaso." -- Gyrofrog (talk) 22:50, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
Clan populations
An anonymous editor listed a number of clans in order of popualtion. This map does not show any such numbers for the vicinity, but the clan in closest proximity is not among those that were listed. In the absence of additional verifiable references, I am inclined to consider edits such as these to be original research and/or PoV. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 17:16, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
The Marehan and Ogaden clan also live the city —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.241.136.214 (talk) 22:07, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
Bob Geldof
Bob Geldof devotes a page to Bosaso in his coffee table book about Africa; unfortunately his comments are less than flattering but he does claim that Bosaso's exports are paltry. Is there a case for mentioning the Geldof reference here, perhaps cleaning it up a bit (you can't use the word "s***hole" in a Wikipedia article as far as I know)? Bosaso is a little known place to the world at large so maybe any comments are better tnan none.
I'm not certain either way about this.
Meltingpot (talk) 11:28, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
Move
I agree with Gyrofrog that we should move this article to "Bosaso" --ElectricEye (talk) 14:13, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
- Support a move to Bosaso in theory but somebody needs to try and standardize Somali geographical naming -- about half are in Somali and half in "English." See Category:Cities in Somalia or Category:Somalia geography stubs for examples. — AjaxSmack 07:34, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
- Support - a move to Bosaso is most appropiate since everyone except us somalis use Boosaaso. But its should be noted int eh article that the Somali way of writing is actually Boosaaso. --Samantar Abdirisaq 20:14, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
I've completed the page move, per the request at WP:RM and the above discussion. Cheers. -GTBacchus(talk) 01:43, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
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Bosaso population
Kzl55 what is your issue why are you harassing me by reverting every article i am involved, what is your issue ? why are you removing sourced material of 2014 instead 2005?Somajeeste (talk)
are you trying to say 2005 article are more authentic then 2014 ? from your point of view if this is the real population number is that ( which i doubt) i am good with it , but we gotta use it Hargeisa population and every other city which your reference mentions. is that fair enough Somajeeste (talk) 13:11, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
- No need for WP:PERSONAL attacks. Please note that repeating allegations of harassment against other editors without clear evidence is considered harassment on Wikipedia.
- In defence I must say your edits have been very disruptive to this section, examples of disruptive edits include removing Somaliland's national anthem from a template of National anthems of Africa (please note template makes no mention of de jure status and includes other non-UN-recognised nations such as Sahrawi Arab Republic, Saint Helena and Réunion) [1], you have also removed Somaliland from List of foreign ministers in 2017 for no apparent reason [2] (list also includes other unrecognised states such as SAR). You even went ahead and removed Somaliland from the Freedom of the Press report page [3], despite the report explicitly including Somaliland [4]. How do you explain any of that?
- Add to that your constant warring on Adal Sultanate, where you failed to produce any evidence the territory of Adal extended beyond Somaliland, and also your edit warring on Hargeisa where you failed to show why it is appropriate to refer to Hargeisa as a city in northwestern Somalia. I have presented to you Wikipedia precedent for both cases, in the case of Hargeisa you have Taiwan and as for Adal Sultanate you have Dál_Riata.
- As for the case on this page, you have removed an estimate number cited by UNOCHA and UNDP and replaced it with a number not based on any study from a reliable source that we know of, the page you cited was rescued from a website that is no longer operational and does not specify how it came to this number anyway. Your best bet is to look up the info from UN agencies that work in the region, they may have an updated estimate. Kzl55 (talk) 14:26, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
I said before No one has better position than the municipality about the estimate of their residents! deadlink or not a lot of sources are cited through archives in Wiki, kzl5 your reverting sourced content is not gonna help. Per reliable sources, sister city website cited '"has an estimated population of about 700,000 residents."' and it should be relying source, or at least included both sources, furthermore stop being un necessarily off the topic content, sourced or not. Where is the weakness in this? Also, I have no interest in charged confrontations. Discuss things by logical means please. Somajeeste (talk) 12:13, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
- Information you add to Wikipedia has to come from reliable sources and must be verifiable by readers, this is not the case here as you are not linking to any published censuses or studies of the population of Bosaso, but a passing mention of this figure on a website thats no longer operational [5]. I have advised you above to find an updated estimate from a one of the UN agencies working in the region, I believe this is your best bet, until then please cease the disruptive edits. --Kzl55 (talk) 17:37, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
RfC about the Bosaso population source
The consensus is against the proposed change. The consensus is to continue using the UN estimate from 2005 until a new estimate is made available. Cunard (talk) 09:22, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
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The Bosaso Municipality which administers the city indicates that there is around 700,000 in 2014 [6]. while current Demographics cited from 2005 UN estimate, the municipality's estimate also used by Minneapolis city web which have Town twinning arrangement and it's in line with Somalia's article Urban areas Should that be the source or the UN estimate of 2005 ? Somajeeste (talk) 06:19, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose – Wikipedia relies on the use of reliable sources, you have been advised previously [7], [8] to cite a reliable source for this figure. The removal of estimate figures by UNOCHA and UNDP and replacement with a number found on a website that does not cite a study or a census from a reliable source on which this 700,000 figure is based is not appropriate, furthermore the site is no longer operational, which puts the authenticity of it as a municipality website in doubt. Lastly, the 2014 population estimate survey by UNFPA puts the population of Bari the region encompassing Bosaso at 719,512 of which only 471,785 is urban, this is for the same period (2014) indicated in your source [9]. Thus as far as we can tell the urban population of the entirety of the region is 471,785 divided between all the urban settlements of the region. Unfortunately the population estimates are only provided for regions and not cities. For the time being, the UN estimate of 2005 should be used until a new estimate is made available. --Kzl55 (talk) 09:34, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose per Kzl55. The 2005 number should be used. (Summoned by bot) d.g. L3X1 (distænt write) )evidence( 13:35, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
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up to date bosaso population
As of 2011 the city of Bosaso has a population of 500,000 [1]
Faarax200 (talk) 11:13, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
- Ironically, this source contradicts the claim you made minutes ago regarding Garoowe's population where you claimed its 250,000. The source you are using now states 60,000 as a population figure for Garoowe (within the same sentence commenting on Bosaso's population). For the last time, please cease the disruptive editing. --Kzl55 (talk) 11:24, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
Why are you refusing the up to date book source that says the city of bosaso has 500,000 ? Faarax200 (talk) 11:26, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
- ^ Briggs, Philip (2011). Somaliland With Addis Ababa & Eastern Ethiopia. Bradt Travel Guides. p. 22. ISBN 1841623717.