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Bully Hayes was not a pirate! He was one of the harder of the so-called "blackbirders". He may have engaged in smuggling, and possibly theft, but he was no pirate. Incidentally, is there any evidence that he was involved in fillibustering (which I definitely wouldn't define as privateering)?JohnC (talk) 06:30, 18 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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The intro wanders all over the place and is in need of serious rewrite. It starts with an incomplete sentence that lacks terminal punctuation, and then immediately launches into a lengthy discussion of the source of his nickname, without ever explaining who is is or why he's noteworthy. The rest consists largely of trivia about his "job title", again without explaining why he warrants a Wikipedia article. Someone knowledgeable about the topic should step in, delete the existing intro, and craft a new one from sourced facts. 71.200.89.119 (talk) 20:19, 25 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's taken seven years, but it's now trimmed, and much better. Snori (talk) 00:47, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I have referred the conversation to the mediation committee for assistance and so await their response.

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Some five years ago I included updates on Bully Hayes and a collection of other men associated with the McIvor Escort Robbery in 1853 and the sinking of the ship Madagascar. I include detailed evidence of this on my website thesilentmoon.com. It is extremely disturbing that since then someone has come onto Wikipedia and deleted my references and made declarations that Bully Hayes was not a pirate. We may debate that fact on historical evidence but it is dishonest and disgraceful to alter the historical record for some unknown motive. History under goes many revisions and to delete a part of the story destroys the fabric and importance of history. Whomever is responsible for this editing needs to restore the page to record all the evidence and references that was provided. The person who is trolling wiki to change the historical record for their own motive or arrogance needs to cease. Geoff (author of the silent moon) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Redbacks Again (talk • contribs) 02:53, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You wrote and published an e-book. It's not a reliable source, and you have a conflict of interest in adding mentions of your book. Meters (talk) 03:54, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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 The intro wanders all over the place and is in need of serious rewrite.  It starts with an incomplete sentence that lacks terminal punctuation, and then immediately launches into a lengthy discussion of the source of his nickname, without ever explaining who is is or why he's noteworthy.  The rest consists largely of trivia about his "job title", again without explaining why he warrants a Wikipedia article.  Someone knowledgeable about the topic should step in, delete the existing intro, and craft a new one from sourced facts. [[Special:Contributions/71.200.89.119|71.200.89.119]] ([[User talk:71.200.89.119|talk]]) 20:19, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
 :It's taken seven years, but it's now trimmed, and much better. [[User:Snori|Snori]] ([[User talk:Snori|talk]]) 00:47, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
+I have referred the conversation to the mediation committee for assistance and so await their response.
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