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Is there another article to merge with other than depopulation of the great plains for the U.S? There is not enough information |
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[[User:Hhyuna25|Hhyuna25]] ([[User talk:Hhyuna25|talk]]) 16:18, 1 June 2017 (UTC)hhyuna25 |
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== Overlap + some more history == |
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I mostly have 3 Problems with this article: |
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1) I know you already mentioned some historic examples but I think it would be good to add some more examples. Some links would be enough. You don't have to discuss it in depth. Some of the most drastic examples I know of is the counter urbanization of many cities in western Europe after the fall of the western roman empire. For example Rome shrank from the largest city in antiquity to about 30k? inhabitants during the early middle ages before it started to grow again. (Quote from the Rome wiki site: Its population declined from more than a million in 210 AD to 500,000 in 273[41] to 35,000 after the Gothic War,[42] reducing the sprawling city to groups of inhabited buildings interspersed among large areas of ruins, vegetation, vineyards and market gardens.[43]) |
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There are also examples where large towns completely disappeared (Babylon, Memphis and Thebes(Egypt), Karakorum etc. → [[Lost_city]]) |
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2) Several kinds of articles seem to be overlapping: |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counterurbanization |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrinking_cities |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rural_flight |
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This article needs to be improved
- In the graphic comparing Pocahontas County to Johnson County, Johnson County is a POOR choice. As it is home to Iowa City and, thus, the University of Iowa, it has an inordinate number of college students relative to most urban centers. This essentially makes it an outlier; a more apropos choice would be Polk County (Des Moines), which not only does not contain the largest university in the state, but is more representative of a typical urban center. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.71.26.54 (talk) 06:38, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
- I have to agree with this statement. Either Polk or Linn counties would have been more representative of a non-collegiate population.Nst101 (talk) 01:59, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
- There are thousands of good references on this subject. Besides, it could be useful to read this article in other languages. --Fev 02:42, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Merger with Rural Exodous and Rural Depopulation
Rural flight has taken over the articles Rural exodous and Rural depopulation, neither of which had much content. Rural flight seems to be the most common terms used, with 7.9 million Google hits, compared to 1.6 million for Rural exodous and 0.1 million for Rural depopulation. Bill Whittaker (talk) 14:19, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
Merge with Landflucht
Please see Talk:Landflucht#Merge_proposal. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 19:23, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Other regions of world
I improved the U.S. and Canada sections, but other regions of the world need more work; I know very little about rural flight in developing nations... Any takers? Bill Whittaker (talk) 14:17, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
Downtown Prairie City, Iowa
Why is Prairie City, Iowa used as an example; by looking at its population (fairly consistent growth for over 100 years) it is undoubtedly an exception to what the picture is used to show. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.92.250.42 (talk) 18:31, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
Refining rural flight
As part of a class, this semester I will begin a project editing and refining the article on rural flight. While this article has decent coverage over Western communities, I agree with previous commenters that there remain few examples from non-Western societies as well as very limited historical context. I hope to improve this article through adding relevant examples of non-Western rural flight, historical context, and complementing images and graphics. I agree with several of the comments made by previous commenters regarding some of the examples. Given the wealth of examples of rural areas that have went into decline, it seems that we could probably pull a more appropriate example that Prairie City, Iowa. My overall goal will also to bring this article in a greater alignment with higher quality Wikipedia articles both in content and formatting. I welcome any feedback that you guys may have regarding my project on refining rural flight. Specifically, if any of you guys know good resources to consult regarding non-Western demography, I would greatly appreciate it! Hihappy21 (talk) 16:22, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
Peer Review
So far, your contributions to this article look really good. There are, however, a few points that could use improvement: 1. The US/Canada section is really lacking. From what I've read, there's been some trouble getting an appropriate example for this section. Instead of focusing just on one place, perhaps you could do regional trends throughout the two countries? 2. Similarly, there is little information about developing nations. I think it would be nice to get a sense of what rural flight looks like in these areas and an idea of how it will play into their economic and social development. 3. I really appreciated the section about the consequences of rural flight. If you have time, it might be nice to have even more information. 4. Some of the citations (I believe 18-22) are improper. If you have time/ the capability, it would be good for these to be proper citations. Overall, fantastic work! Missjenga (talk) 23:55, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
Peer Review 2
Looks good overall! a few sections that you can add to are, as another user mentioned, the section on the US and Canada and the section on how developing nations cope with rural flight. Make sure that your language is unbiased and that all of your citations are proper (I think the other reviewer noticed some things I missed). In general, this is a very cool article and one that is pretty well-rounded and representative of many different cultures/regions. Ktpost68 (talk) 08:03, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
Improvement
Citation is needed for "phenomenon was first articulated through Christian McLean's Laws of migration in the 1880s." Is there any references we can add to this part? Hhyuna25 (talk) 16:18, 1 June 2017 (UTC)hhyuna25
Is there another article to merge with other than depopulation of the great plains for the U.S? There is not enough information Hhyuna25 (talk) 16:18, 1 June 2017 (UTC)hhyuna25
Overlap + some more history
I mostly have 3 Problems with this article: 1) I know you already mentioned some historic examples but I think it would be good to add some more examples. Some links would be enough. You don't have to discuss it in depth. Some of the most drastic examples I know of is the counter urbanization of many cities in western Europe after the fall of the western roman empire. For example Rome shrank from the largest city in antiquity to about 30k? inhabitants during the early middle ages before it started to grow again. (Quote from the Rome wiki site: Its population declined from more than a million in 210 AD to 500,000 in 273[41] to 35,000 after the Gothic War,[42] reducing the sprawling city to groups of inhabited buildings interspersed among large areas of ruins, vegetation, vineyards and market gardens.[43])
There are also examples where large towns completely disappeared (Babylon, Memphis and Thebes(Egypt), Karakorum etc. → Lost_city)
2) Several kinds of articles seem to be overlapping:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counterurbanization
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrinking_cities
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rural_flight
etc...