User talk:Cordless Larry

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deleting aedp article

Hi Cordless Larry I just saw that aedp article is being discussed to be deleted. I didn't get a notification and just saw this now. Obviously I am very upset, as that is a year of work for me and I had addressed the issues that are under discussion already. I would like to address the issues but I don't know how to join that discussion. If I go to edit, there is no room for me to write, and I don't want to move anything around. But here goes if you can please share:

1. Of course I am a student of AEDP, how else could I understand the topic. And yes, diana fosha mentioned me in a footnote in her book but that was to acknowledge that I had written up the transcript of a session she showed, that she had in fact written in the article and that was my transcription! So I am her associate to the extent that a student is an associate of a principal.

3. There are quite a few newer references that further support the notability of aedp since the article was posted a year ago.

4. how can it be written like a personal essay and also be written as a textbook

it can't be written any way other than it is written because i have followed the advised wikipedia practice of writing from the point of view of verifiable and notable sources. the sources are highly conceptual and research based, so of course its going to follow that tone. Believe me there is no way i can think of to make the content any more accessible without "dumbing it down." I think if I were to try to read an entry on sub-particle physics, i would not understand it,but I would be disappointed in wikipedia if it was written for a 6th grader to understand (as is the reading level that is advised for many non-scholarly writing).

5. students/therapists/psychotherapy researcher, psychologists are coming across AEDP in many writings. In the last year the citations to her work have increased significantly. I think turning to wikipedia to understand what this is, is what wikipedia is for. I love wikipedia. And what i wrote is exactly what I would have wanted to find.

6. why is someone hopping on coherence therapy - its a reference.

7. that AEDP is one of the model of therapy considered mainstream and of importance and promoted by APA on its website, with a dvd, is testimony to its notability. And as someone said, if Diana fosha is notable, why isn't aedp?

8. Please do not let them delete AEDP article. Carrieruggieri (talk) 01:10, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

I see that you did manage to post this at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Accelerated experiential dynamic psychotherapy, but it was after the discussion had been closed, so it has been removed, Carrieruggieri. The outcome of the discussion was a decision to cover AEDP in the Diana Fosha article rather than in a standalone article. It might still be possible to have an article on the theory in future (though on your penultimate point, see WP:NOTINHERITED), but it would need to be more neutrally written. Cordless Larry (talk) 08:54, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

Draft deleted, please advise.

Hi there,

Thank you so much for your help on my query.

The page I created was apparently deleted with reason cited as G11: Unambigous advertising. I tried to contact the editor who deleted the page but was not able to leave a message at the bottom of his page with the four Pol.res.pic (talk) 07:30, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

Should I just rework my content and create a new page now? Also, how do I know what is being perceived as advertising in the content, so that I can avoid it in the new draft perhaps?

Many thanks and kind regards, Policy Researcher

It's hard for me to give advice on what was perceived as advertising as I can't see the deleted material, Pol.res.pic. However, you should have a read of Wikipedia:Your first article, which might help. Once you're ready to try again, I suggest creating a draft for review via Wikipedia:Article wizard. Cordless Larry (talk) 07:35, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi,

True, I just went through that page and have edited the content. Have made it absolutely plain and simple with no words or sentence constructions that may sound 'promotional'. Do I absolutely need to add sources for the page creation such as newspaper articles? Or is that optional?

Kind regards, Policy Researcher — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pol.res.pic (talk • contribs) 08:02, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

Sources are not optional, Pol.res.pic. There should be nothing in an article that can't be verified by a reader checking a reliable, published source. See Wikipedia:Verifiability. Cordless Larry (talk) 08:06, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

Please comment on Template talk:Infobox country

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Template talk:Infobox country. Legobot (talk) 04:29, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

Deletion of the page Leonid Kanter

Dear Cordless Larry, my name is Kateryna Mizina and I am an author of the page Leonid Kanter which you suggested for deletion. Please could you check out the references I uploaded to the page? I am a new user in Wikipedia so I want to learn how to do everything correctly. Please help me and don't delete this page :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Катерина Мізіна (talk • contribs) 10:26, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Катерина Мізіна. I can see that the article has some external links, but not references that support the material in the article. I suggest that you take a look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Help:Referencing for beginners, and ask at Wikipedia:Teahouse if you need any help in understanding what is required. Cordless Larry (talk) 11:01, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

Hello, dear Cordless Larry. Please check out the references I've added to the page Leonid Kanter. I think that those sources are pretty reliable, aren't them? And I hope I kept the neutral point of view in this article. Please check it out. For now it was hard to find good references in English so I promise to add more when I have some. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Катерина Мізіна (talk • contribs) 17:47, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

I see that you've added some footnotes, Катерина Мізіна, but these are more links to further information than they are references. References should verify the material that they follow. So, for example, the reference following the sentence "In 1999 Kanter was a presenter of TV program Future celebrities" should be a source that states that he was the presenter of that programme. The footnote you have provided is instead a note telling the reader that they can watch more of his TV programmes on YouTube. Please have a read of Wikipedia:Verifiability and Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources to understand what is required. Cordless Larry (talk) 19:54, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

London streets

thanks Larry for your comments - I've raised this as an issue on the Nav box talk page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Street_name_etymologies_of_London#update_-_Nov_2017), let me know your thoughts Sdrawkcab (talk) 14:42, 3 November 2017 (UTC)sdrawkcab

Busan Foreign School

Hi Cordless Larry, Thank you for linking my discussion about the Busan Foreign School wikipedia. As an educator I appreciate the work that dedicated volunteers of Wikipedia do to store and disseminate knowledge. As a principal trying to run a school, I find this whole experience frustrating, time consuming and serving no purpose. Sy Lee graduated in 2016 from Busan Foreign School. Before he left he changed the web page to show himself as principal. We have corrected misinformation left by students from our own school and students from another local school. When the page was put up for deletion we were very happy. I don't see it as a page that serves the public good. You can check the school website to see relevant information about the school. You can also check the following sources:

Western Association of Schools and Colleges Eastern Regional Council of Overseas Schools

Both organizations are well respected and have accurate information on our school. But why bother, at this point the page has so little verifiable information that it should be deleted.

Thank you, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iainmacfarlane (talk • contribs) 08:16, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

No problem, Iainmacfarlane. The reason I linked to your post is that you made it on the talk page associated with the deletion discussion, rather than in the discussion itself, which is at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Busan Foreign School. You might want to post the above there too, if you want your views taken into account. Cordless Larry (talk) 08:30, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Elections and Referendums

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Elections and Referendums. Legobot (talk) 04:25, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

My newbe Tiko Kerr article edits

Hello,

Trying to update Tiko Kerr article as you know and ran into trouble. Didn't know about "subject can't determine content" rule. Disclosed that I was asked by subject to make changes and hit brick wall. Continued adding data via COI section as per instructions. This artist has progressed way beyond original article. Needs update. Can you help? Thanks

Rexb9 (talk) 14:01, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

References

Hello, Rexb9. There is currently rather a large backlog of edit requests. You might be able to improve the chances of your requests being acted on sooner rather than later by ensuring that you have provided text that is ready to go into the article. At present, the material you've posted at Talk:Tiko Kerr would need quite a lot of reworking before it is ready to be added to the article. In particular, you should ensure that it is referenced properly, by following the instructions at Help:Referencing for beginners. Cordless Larry (talk) 15:33, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

Thank you - will do. Rexb9 (talk) 17:11, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

delete request

Hello Cordless Larry,

I have tried to explain, as I learn myself, how Wikipedia works to Tiko Kerr and his agent to no avail. In the last few days, they have asked me repeatedly to “demand” that the article be deleted. I have explained that this is not how it works but now I am finally obliged to submit this request to delete the article as a matter of record knowing that it is not the way to go and that it is not likely to happen in any case. I'm sorry for the time you have wasted on this but I am grateful for what I have learned. Thank you.

Rexb9 (talk) 20:26, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

Hello again, Rexb9. In my view, you are correct that the article is unlikely to be deleted, since there is enough coverage of Kerr in reliable sources for him to meet Wikipedia's notability criteria. Others may disagree, of course. If you wanted to find out, the instructions for nominating the article for deletion are at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Cordless Larry (talk) 20:29, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

Revert to older version

The article stub on Tiko Kerr is, he claims, deleterious to his career as is. can I revert to the September 16 2017 verion without unpleasant repurcussion in your opinion? Rexb9 (talk) 11:10, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

I'm afraid that that version includes too much unsourced opinion, Rexb9. If Mr Kerr believes that the article is harmful to him, then this should be reported at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard. Cordless Larry (talk) 11:52, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

I see, of course, you are right. I must continue to convince them to persist with my COI revisions and updates (and my self-education) in spite of impatience. Thanks yet again.

Rexb9 (talk) 12:11, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

Kornelija Slunjski Page

Cordless Larry,

I've recently received an email that you deleted my page "Kornelija Slunjski".

I changed a lot of wording so it fits Wikipedia's guidelines.

Can you please confirm it's in good order now ? If not, what else needs to be changed?

Also, my photo was deleted but I'm confused as in Why since I own that photo?

Thank you!

TheGalaxyMan (talk) 14:54, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

TheGalaxyMan, I did not delete the article (I am not an administrator), but I did nominate it for deletion. The version you have recreated is still too promotional (and unsufficiently sourced as well). I suggest that you have a read of Wikipedia:Your first article and then make use of the Article Wizard to create a draft for review, rather than recreating the article as a live page. Cordless Larry (talk) 16:18, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

Cordless Larry

I changed it again, and removed anything that could potentially seem as promotional. As far as the text being insufficiently sourced, I added articles from the most read news outlets in former Yugoslavia. There are also articles in Croatian magazines about Kornelija (as that's her birth country), but I am not familiar in how to add those sources?

I also went to check the Wikipedia:Your first article and read through it, once I wanted to create a draft I received a Warning: The page Kornelija Slunjski already exists. Thank you! --TheGalaxyMan (talk) 17:01, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

My advice was for if and when the article is deleted again, TheGalaxyMan (unless you want me to move it to draft space, which I can do). Cordless Larry (talk) 17:40, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

Cordless Larry

Thanks for replying and the advice- I Contested the deletion, and explained in the Talk page why I think it shouldn't be deleted...

I am not sure what is the process now, I added more sources and cut down everything that could seem promotional. Is there any specific input you can share to help me get this page published?

Warm Regards, TheGalaxyMan (talk) 17:44, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

Tiko Kerr update by rexb9

I have done some homework and, I believe, managed to clean things up on mt Tiko Kerr edit request. Would you have time to take a quick look? Any help would be very much appreciated. This subject doesn't have a lot of references so it's difficult. I can't have unreferenced listings of public events, can I? Thanks

Rexb9 (talk) 15:08, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

I don't really have enough time at the moment, Rexb9, but your request now looks a lot tidier, which is good. You shouldn't list events that can't be sourced, no, and in fact I would avoid trying to list everything in any case. Really, the article should just summarise his most important work/events, as reflected in secondary sources. See WP:NOTRESUME, which is relevant here. Cordless Larry (talk) 16:24, 14 November 2017 (UTC)