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Requested move

The request to rename this article to Huntsville (disambiguation) has been carried out.

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Huntsville → Huntsville (disambiguation) –
Huntsville → redirect to Huntsville, Alabama

Huntsville, Alabama is ~~overwhelmingly~~ the primary topic. It is city of over 180,000 people. The second largest is less than 40,000, and the next are no less than a few thousand. 146.229.240.200 (talk) 07:14, 21 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Survey

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.

Oppose per US Name In ictu oculi (talk) 07:57, 21 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Please quote something from "US Name" which supports opposition to this proposal. --В²C ☎ 19:24, 21 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, per Wikipedia:USPLACE – Huntsville is not a city listed in the AP Stylebook^[1] as not requiring the state modifier in newspaper articles, unless we're out of date on this; if we are, please update that naming convention. – wbm1058 (talk) 17:31, 21 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- That's not what's being proposed. OP is saying that Huntsville should be a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT to Huntsville, Alabama, which happens all the time. Tuscaloosa for an Alabama instance. Nohomersryan (talk) 18:31, 21 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  Oops, brain fart. I retract that rationale. However, a more complete look a page views should include the Texas prison, infamous for housing the most active execution chamber in the United States. When that's included, the Alabama city gets under 60% of page views. It's on the bubble, but I'm inclined to keep the status quo. – wbm1058 (talk) 19:46, 21 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support. It seems like the primary topic to me. WP:USPLACE is being adhered to in this case. Nohomersryan (talk) 18:31, 21 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Oppose. Huntsville, Texas and Huntsville, Ontario are both reasonably prominent. I certainly don't think Huntsville, Alabama is "overwhelmingly" primary, it just about scrapes over the line if at all. —Xezbeth (talk) 19:04, 21 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Page view counts demonstrate that the article on the Alabama city gets 700-800 views per day, while the others get under 200. That clearly qualifies it as the primary topic. -_В²C ☎ 19:21, 21 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: is this any different than say, Cleveland or Jacksonville, both of which have other cities that are reasonably prominent? 146.229.240.200 (talk) 19:16, 21 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- What difference does that make? See WP:OTHERSTUFF. --В²C ☎ 19:19, 21 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  - Comment: Wow, nice bashing me with an argument for deletion discussions! 146.229.240.200 (talk) 00:35, 22 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support. It is the primary topic and redirecting Huntsville to Huntsville, Alabama is consistent with guidance at WP:USPLACE. --В²C ☎ 19:13, 21 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Note: since we've established that "overwhelmingly" is probably too harsh of a word, I have struck it. Huntsville is still without a doubt the primary topic. 146.229.240.200 (talk) 00:37, 22 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Any additional comments:

References

^ Goldstein, Norm (2013). "Stylebook, section D: datelines". The Associated Press Stylebook and Briefing on Media Law. New York: Basic Books/Associated Press. p. 75. ISBN 978-0465082995. {{cite book}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help) The cities listed by the AP are Atlanta, Baltimore, Boston, Chicago, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Dallas, Denver, Detroit, Honolulu, Houston, Indianapolis, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Miami, Milwaukee, Minneapolis, New Orleans, New York City, Oklahoma City, Philadelphia, Phoenix, Pittsburgh, St. Louis, Salt Lake City, San Antonio, San Diego, San Francisco, Seattle, and Washington, D.C.—although Washington, D.C. does have a territorial qualifier. Wikipedia titles all of these except Phoenix, Arizona, by city name alone.

[AP_Stylebook-1] Goldstein, Norm (2013). "Stylebook, section D: datelines". The Associated Press Stylebook and Briefing on Media Law. New York: Basic Books/Associated Press. p. 75. ISBN 978-0465082995. {{cite book}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help) The cities listed by the AP are Atlanta, Baltimore, Boston, Chicago, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Dallas, Denver, Detroit, Honolulu, Houston, Indianapolis, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Miami, Milwaukee, Minneapolis, New Orleans, New York City, Oklahoma City, Philadelphia, Phoenix, Pittsburgh, St. Louis, Salt Lake City, San Antonio, San Diego, San Francisco, Seattle, and Washington, D.C.—although Washington, D.C. does have a territorial qualifier. Wikipedia titles all of these except Phoenix, Arizona, by city name alone.

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 ***Comment: Wow, nice bashing me with an argument for deletion discussions! [[Special:Contributions/146.229.240.200|146.229.240.200]] ([[User talk:146.229.240.200|talk]]) 00:35, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
 *'''Support'''. It is the primary topic and redirecting [[Huntsville]] to [[Huntsville, Alabama]] is consistent with guidance at [[WP:USPLACE]]. --[[User:Born2cycle|В²C]] [[User_talk:Born2cycle#top|☎]] 19:13, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
+*'''Note''': since we've established that "overwhelmingly" is probably too harsh of a word, I have struck it. Huntsville is still without a doubt the primary topic. [[Special:Contributions/146.229.240.200|146.229.240.200]] ([[User talk:146.229.240.200|talk]]) 00:37, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
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