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*'''Comment''' the parent topic [[International Olympiad in Informatics]] is notable, so whatever the consensus here is, this shouldn't be a delete as it would be a valid redirect to the parent topic, so a default of redirect should be considered per policy [[WP:ATD-R]] {{tq|deletion is not required}}. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Widefox|Widefox]]</span>; [[User talk:Widefox|talk]]</span> 00:04, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' the parent topic [[International Olympiad in Informatics]] is notable, so whatever the consensus here is, this shouldn't be a delete as it would be a valid redirect to the parent topic, so a default of redirect should be considered per policy [[WP:ATD-R]] {{tq|deletion is not required}}. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Widefox|Widefox]]</span>; [[User talk:Widefox|talk]]</span> 00:04, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' Quality sources for notabilty seem hard to come by. Alternatives including merging with [[Hong Kong Mathematics Olympiad]] (which actually is more famous to my inderstanding), or changing to 'Hong Kong Olympiads' and embracing the other Olypiad disciplines (Perhaps leaving mathematics as own article as originally individually famous). Citations for Hong Kong Olympiads (combined) are easier to come by. However I get the feeling HK government press releases such as [http://www.info.gov.hk/gia/general/200608/23/P200608230096.htm] might be regarded as a scrutenised significanet, reviewed and reliable source by any reasonable judgement. I am, minded the PROD challenge was likely in good faith that an attempt would be made to update the article, albeit not probably (so far at least) to a standard acceptable to the nominator. The challenger has also declared a COI and has had edits applied through due process. But I think we would welcome the challenger comments here and especially if independent sources can be identified. As a last resort in the event the outcome is delete can I request draftification. Thankyou. [[User:Djm-leighpark|Djm-leighpark]] ([[User talk:Djm-leighpark|talk]]) 23:27, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' Quality sources for notabilty seem hard to come by. Alternatives including merging with [[Hong Kong Mathematics Olympiad]] (which actually is more famous to my inderstanding), or changing to 'Hong Kong Olympiads' and embracing the other Olypiad disciplines (Perhaps leaving mathematics as own article as originally individually famous). Citations for Hong Kong Olympiads (combined) are easier to come by. However I get the feeling HK government press releases such as [http://www.info.gov.hk/gia/general/200608/23/P200608230096.htm] might be regarded as a scrutenised significanet, reviewed and reliable source by any reasonable judgement. I am, minded the PROD challenge was likely in good faith that an attempt would be made to update the article, albeit not probably (so far at least) to a standard acceptable to the nominator. The challenger has also declared a COI and has had edits applied through due process. But I think we would welcome the challenger comments here and especially if independent sources can be identified. As a last resort in the event the outcome is delete can I request draftification. Thankyou. [[User:Djm-leighpark|Djm-leighpark]] ([[User talk:Djm-leighpark|talk]]) 23:27, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' Note: COI. There is no doubt that the article requires clean up to remove NPOV and add sources. That is why I requested edit to only fix the most vital facts (in the lead section) and added two sources. The question is whether the subject meets notability requirement. First please understand that most newspapers and magazines in Hong Kong do not keep their old issues online, though they are accessible from the public library and the e-database [https://www.hkpl.gov.hk/en/e-resources/e-databases/keyword/WiseNews/all/1 Wisenews]. So I visited the library to look for sources. I am listing some of the higher quality sources for fellow wikipedians to assess them. Thank you very much.
*'''Keep''' Note: COI. There is no doubt that the article requires clean up to remove NPOV and add sources. That is why I requested edit to only fix the most vital facts (in the lead section) and added two sources. The question is whether the subject meets notability requirement. First please understand that most newspapers and magazines in Hong Kong do not keep their old issues online, though they are accessible from the public library and the e-database [https://www.hkpl.gov.hk/en/e-resources/e-databases/keyword/WiseNews/all/1 Wisenews]. So I visited the library to look for sources. I am listing some of the higher quality sources for fellow wikipedians to assess them. Thank you very much. [[User:Microtony|Micro]]'''[[User talk:Microtony|tony]]''' 17:19, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
** Local newspapers: <ref>{{cite news |title=國際電腦奧林匹克賽金牌得主 潘永志「零的突破」 |work=[[Ta Kung Pao]] |date=31 December 1997 |at=A11}}</ref><ref>{{cite news |title=電腦奧運賽港生摘金 |work=[[Sing Tao Daily]] |date=31 December 1997 |at=A8}}</ref><ref>{{cite news |title=電腦奧林匹克 培正中學奪魁 |work=[[Ta Kung Pao]] |at=A12 |date=2 December 1998}}</ref><ref>{{cite news |title=培正中學多電腦奇才 ───電腦教師鍾偉東談學生得獎經過 |work=[[Hong Kong Commercial Daily]] |at=B01 |date=5 December 1998}}</ref><ref>{{cite news |title=九八年度香港電腦奧林匹克競賽成績好 |work=[[Sing Tao Daily]] |at=B18 |date=12 December 1998}}</ref><ref>{{cite news |title=香港電腦奧賽喇沙稱王 |work=[[Ta Kung Pao]] |date=29 January 2003 |at=B02}}</ref><ref>{{cite web |title=國際電腦奧林匹克拔萃生奪金牌 |work=[[Apple Daily]] |at=A16 |date=25 August 2003 |url=https://hk.news.appledaily.com/local/daily/article/20030825/3494002}}</ref><ref>{{cite web| title=電腦奧林匹克 喇沙奪學校大獎 |work=[[Wen Wei Po]] |date=7 January 2006 |at=A12 |url=http://paper.wenweipo.com/2006/01/07/ED0601070005.htm }}</ref><ref>{{cite web| title=國際電腦奧賽 港生奪金 |work=[[Wen Wei Po]] |date=24 August 2006 |at=A13 |url=http://paper.wenweipo.com/2006/08/24/HK0608240027.htm}}</ref><ref>{{cite web |title=編程式獲獎學生再出戰 「港府投放資源不足」
** Local newspapers: <ref>{{cite news |title=國際電腦奧林匹克賽金牌得主 潘永志「零的突破」 |work=[[Ta Kung Pao]] |date=31 December 1997 |at=A11}}</ref><ref>{{cite news |title=電腦奧運賽港生摘金 |work=[[Sing Tao Daily]] |date=31 December 1997 |at=A8}}</ref><ref>{{cite news |title=電腦奧林匹克 培正中學奪魁 |work=[[Ta Kung Pao]] |at=A12 |date=2 December 1998}}</ref><ref>{{cite news |title=培正中學多電腦奇才 ───電腦教師鍾偉東談學生得獎經過 |work=[[Hong Kong Commercial Daily]] |at=B01 |date=5 December 1998}}</ref><ref>{{cite news |title=九八年度香港電腦奧林匹克競賽成績好 |work=[[Sing Tao Daily]] |at=B18 |date=12 December 1998}}</ref><ref>{{cite news |title=香港電腦奧賽喇沙稱王 |work=[[Ta Kung Pao]] |date=29 January 2003 |at=B02}}</ref><ref>{{cite web |title=國際電腦奧林匹克拔萃生奪金牌 |work=[[Apple Daily]] |at=A16 |date=25 August 2003 |url=https://hk.news.appledaily.com/local/daily/article/20030825/3494002}}</ref><ref>{{cite web| title=電腦奧林匹克 喇沙奪學校大獎 |work=[[Wen Wei Po]] |date=7 January 2006 |at=A12 |url=http://paper.wenweipo.com/2006/01/07/ED0601070005.htm }}</ref><ref>{{cite web| title=國際電腦奧賽 港生奪金 |work=[[Wen Wei Po]] |date=24 August 2006 |at=A13 |url=http://paper.wenweipo.com/2006/08/24/HK0608240027.htm}}</ref><ref>{{cite web |title=編程式獲獎學生再出戰 「港府投放資源不足」
|work=[[Oriental Daily]] |date=26 October 2017 |at=A19 |url=http://hk.on.cc/hk/bkn/cnt/news/20171026/bkn-20171026171724825-1026_00822_001.html}}</ref>
|work=[[Oriental Daily]] |date=26 October 2017 |at=A19 |url=http://hk.on.cc/hk/bkn/cnt/news/20171026/bkn-20171026171724825-1026_00822_001.html}}</ref>
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** Year book of a school: <ref>{{cite journal |title=堅持教授程式編寫 為資訊科技界培育幼苗 |journal=培正校刊 |date=3 July 2010 |volume=44 |issue=2 |pages=47-52 |url=http://www.puiching.edu.hk/CustomPage/29/Journal_44_2.pdf#page=50}}</ref>
** Year book of a school: <ref>{{cite journal |title=堅持教授程式編寫 為資訊科技界培育幼苗 |journal=培正校刊 |date=3 July 2010 |volume=44 |issue=2 |pages=47-52 |url=http://www.puiching.edu.hk/CustomPage/29/Journal_44_2.pdf#page=50}}</ref>
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No coverage in reliable sources in either language; this article has been unsourced for over a decade. PROD challenged without tackling my rationale. wumbolo ^^^ 19:08, 21 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Hong Kong-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 19:22, 21 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment the parent topic International Olympiad in Informatics is notable, so whatever the consensus here is, this shouldn't be a delete as it would be a valid redirect to the parent topic, so a default of redirect should be considered per policy WP:ATD-R deletion is not required. Widefox; talk 00:04, 24 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Quality sources for notabilty seem hard to come by. Alternatives including merging with Hong Kong Mathematics Olympiad (which actually is more famous to my inderstanding), or changing to 'Hong Kong Olympiads' and embracing the other Olypiad disciplines (Perhaps leaving mathematics as own article as originally individually famous). Citations for Hong Kong Olympiads (combined) are easier to come by. However I get the feeling HK government press releases such as [1] might be regarded as a scrutenised significanet, reviewed and reliable source by any reasonable judgement. I am, minded the PROD challenge was likely in good faith that an attempt would be made to update the article, albeit not probably (so far at least) to a standard acceptable to the nominator. The challenger has also declared a COI and has had edits applied through due process. But I think we would welcome the challenger comments here and especially if independent sources can be identified. As a last resort in the event the outcome is delete can I request draftification. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark (talk) 23:27, 24 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Note: COI. There is no doubt that the article requires clean up to remove NPOV and add sources. That is why I requested edit to only fix the most vital facts (in the lead section) and added two sources. The question is whether the subject meets notability requirement. First please understand that most newspapers and magazines in Hong Kong do not keep their old issues online, though they are accessible from the public library and the e-database Wisenews. So I visited the library to look for sources. I am listing some of the higher quality sources for fellow wikipedians to assess them. Thank you very much. Microtony 17:19, 25 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "國際電腦奧林匹克賽金牌得主 潘永志「零的突破」". Ta Kung Pao. 31 December 1997. A11.
  2. ^ "電腦奧運賽港生摘金". Sing Tao Daily. 31 December 1997. A8.
  3. ^ "電腦奧林匹克 培正中學奪魁". Ta Kung Pao. 2 December 1998. A12.
  4. ^ "培正中學多電腦奇才 ───電腦教師鍾偉東談學生得獎經過". Hong Kong Commercial Daily. 5 December 1998. B01.
  5. ^ "九八年度香港電腦奧林匹克競賽成績好". Sing Tao Daily. 12 December 1998. B18.
  6. ^ "香港電腦奧賽喇沙稱王". Ta Kung Pao. 29 January 2003. B02.
  7. ^ "國際電腦奧林匹克拔萃生奪金牌". Apple Daily. 25 August 2003. A16.
  8. ^ "電腦奧林匹克 喇沙奪學校大獎". Wen Wei Po. 7 January 2006. A12.
  9. ^ "國際電腦奧賽 港生奪金". Wen Wei Po. 24 August 2006. A13.
  10. ^ "編程式獲獎學生再出戰 「港府投放資源不足」". Oriental Daily. 26 October 2017. A19.
  11. ^ "香港電腦奧林匹克 薪火相傳大作戰". e-zone. 27 November 2014. pp. 49–52.
  12. ^ "港中學生NOI賽獲取佳績". PCM. 27 July 2018.
  13. ^ "國際電腦奧林匹克競賽港奪一銀二銅". e-zone. 17 September 2018. p. 6.
  14. ^ "堅持教授程式編寫 為資訊科技界培育幼苗" (PDF). 培正校刊. 44 (2): 47–52. 3 July 2010.
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