Talk:John Manley

Opening comments

Hi everyone. I am not sure how this works, as I am very new to Wikipedia, so please bear with me. I've had an interest in Canadian politics for a while, and right now I'm doing a research project on John Manley. Seeing as I'm doing research anyway, I figured I'd see what I could find and contribute to Wikipedia. Any advise/suggestions would be appreciated.

(posted by User:Scimitar) -User:Joshuapaquin

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Several days after Prime Minister Martin was sworn in, Manley declined the ambassadorial appointment, mostly because it would take him out of the country and "out of the loop" for fundraising and other political activities with a long-term view towards his own eventual bid to succeed Martin.

This is rather speculative. Can anyone provide a source? --Saforrest 17:20, May 12, 2005 (UTC)

It seems like it is mostly speculation from different sources: [[1]] I am adjusting the text to reflect that it is speculative- User: Scimitar

On the other hand, the interview with La Presse (translated) mentioned later in the text explicitly says that Manley remained in the country in order to prepare for the Leadership. This article had been based on an interview conducted for La Presse. To me, that's not speculation. -Joshuapaquin 21:51, May 12, 2005 (UTC)

It seems my edit was premature. How do you revert to the previous page? (I could just re-edit it, but I'd like to know how to do this for other situations)- Scimitar

To revert a page, click on the "history" tab at the top of the article. Then click on the revision date you want to revert to. You'll see what the page looked like at that time. To complete the process, click "edit this page" (you'll see a warning about this being an old version) and then "save". -Joshuapaquin 23:16, May 12, 2005 (UTC)

-The page has been returned to its original content. Thanks for the help- Scimitar

Heh, almost a year later I came back to the page, discovered the same paragraph and reacted the same way, i.e. finding the statement speculative. To keep myself from doing this next year, I've added a References section with the CTV story as the first ref. --Saforrest 04:49, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

John (Paul) Manley

If this discussion has already taken place elsewhere, please forgive this question: Why is the article entitled "John Paul Manley" instead of "John Manley"? HistoryBA 00:29, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

John Manley is a disamb. -b 15:19, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, about that... maybe it shouldn't be anymore. There are four JM's in Wikipedia; two are very brief articles, one is the politician, and the other is an American naval officer from the 18th century. I'm thinking that this page should sit at John Manley, with the current contents of that page put to John Manley (disambiguation). -Joshuapaquin 03:03, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Political ideology

"Manley is regarded by some as being from the centre-right of the Liberal party, favouring fiscal conservatism, although his budget included substantial spending."

This sentence is POV. Spending and "fiscal conservativism" are not antithetical - it depends on the kind of spending. Most so-called fiscal conservatives are capable of quite vast spending in the form of subsidies, tax breaks, etc. for corporations, but spend little on social programmes. If the distinction that is intended here is that, while creating a pro-corporatist budget he nevertheless supported social programmes, that should be stated - and supported with references, if true. Pinkville 01:49, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

In Canadian political parlance, tax cuts are not generally considered "spending" because they're a decrease in revenue rather than an increase in expenditure. Anyway, I'll amend that to "substantial program spending" to make the distinction clear. -Joshuapaquin 06:34, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was PAGE MOVED per request, everything seems to be in order here. -GTBacchus^(talk) 02:06, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Requested move

[[John Manley (politician)]] → [[John Manley]] — Average user entering "John Manley" is very, very likely to be looking for information about the politician. Other uses can be done through disambiguation. Joshuapaquin 05:28, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

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• Support as nom. -Joshuapaquin 05:29, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

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