User talk:Primefac

Bot request

Could you replace {{cite}} with {{citation}}. It is an outdated alias that makes CS1 and CS2 names confusing. {{citation journal}} to {{cite journal}} is a similar templat of CS1/CS2 confusion. Maybe even the spaces lacking {{citeweb}}, {{citejournal}}, {{citepaper}}, and {{citebook}} too which at least do not cross CS1/CS2 boundaries. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 00:03, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

AManWithNoPlan, if you want to have the redirect removed from use, you will need to go via WP:RFD. Template redirects are perfectly acceptable and can/should be used until there is an issue such as the one you describe. As for the latter mentions, "spelling errors" are very common template redirects that mean if someone accidentally missed out on a space their time isn't wasted. Again, if you think they should be deleted and/or removed from circulation you will need an RFD or similar discussion. Primefac (talk) 10:18, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

I will look into that. I don’t think they should be deleted, just substituted. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 13:46, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

More questions regarding sources

Hello Primefac, thanks for your time, you just helped me with a question regarding using a picture of an interview from a Latino newspaper celebrating their 30th anniversary. How can I use that interview as "cite news" if there is no link to it? The interview is from 2009, and their web archives only go 5 years back. Disclaimer: the company is paying me to write that article and they gave me permission to publish that picture to illustrate the article. This might be a stretch but can I cite mentioning i.e. "see picture #3"? or Is it acceptable for Wikipedia to link to their website but not to the specific article? Can I still use the interview as a source doing a rephrasing? Thanks again!!ArgieAtl19ArgieAtl19 (talk) 20:45, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

ArgieAtl19, there is no requirement to like to an online version of a newspaper article; just leave out the |url= parameter when you use {{cite news}}. If the newspaper itself is allowing permission for an image to be uploaded, you (or they) should follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials so that it can be released for use on the article in question.

As a note, thank you for your disclosure; be sure to read through Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure so that you are aware of the stipulations regarding paid editing. Let me know if you have any further questions! Primefac (talk) 20:50, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

ANI thread on Chahal

Hi, I just wanted to let you know that I've opened an ANI thread about Chahal. I did not mention you in the thread, but given your recent involvement with the topic, I felt you should know about it. Lepricavark (talk) 18:46, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

​ Didn't see the gaming - I've pulled their EC status. Thanks for the note. Primefac (talk) 18:50, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

No problem. Thanks for taking care of that. Lepricavark (talk) 18:52, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

AWB access on alt account

As mentioned in my request for AWB access, I plan on using a new alternate account, User:AspeningAWB, for AWB edits as there will probably be a lot of them. I can't use AWB as AspeningAWB because that username isn't on the check list. Can you add AspeningAWB to the list? Aspening (talk) 19:51, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Oh, yeah, duh. Got into autopilot when accepting. Will fix in a sec. Primefac (talk) 20:02, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks so much! Aspening (talk) 20:12, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Admin's Barnstar
	For repeatedly closing old TfD nominations. * Pppery * survives 23:35, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks! Primefac (talk) 12:36, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

How can I avoid making mistakes when editing Template:Infobox time zone UTC?

Hi Primefac, I’m sorry about the changes on Template:Infobox time zone UTC. I’m not sure how to edit the article without making mistakes because I copied a revision from August 2018 and the reason why I did that is because I’m not sure how to edit the article without copying an old revision. Can you please show me how to edit the article without making mistakes because I'm worried the next time I edit I might make another mistake, thank you. Lachlb (talk) 11:20, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

Every template has a sandbox where changes can be made. In this case, it's Template:Infobox time zone UTC/sandbox. There is also a "testcases" page where you can try out different combinations of parameters and do general bug-checking to make sure the template is working properly.

As far as editing old versions - if you are accidentally editing an old version of the page, you will get an error message starting with "You are editing an old revision of this page" in which case you'll need to hit the Edit button again to get to the newest version. Primefac (talk) 13:34, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi Primefac, I used the sandbox for my proposed changes to the article and then I put them down on the article. I have removed time zones UTC+01:30, UTC+02:30 and UTC+08:30 because these time zones are currently not being used by any country and I have also made the info is larger so it makes it easier for people to click on the time zones on the template. I made these changes because I want to help fix Wikipedia for you and I hope you agree with them. Lachlb (talk) 07:59, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

Blanked

I blanked because it had OS-able details e.g. phone number, I think it's been cleaned now. Thanks, SITH (talk) 09:30, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

If it's just a small section the whole thing doesn't need blanking. Primefac (talk) 10:08, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

Edits by this guyI may have to block this guy he's started edit warring

[1] bad source, and in the UK most senior lecturers are the equivalent of full professors with lecturers being the same as junior professors. I was a tenured lecturer and not happy with the title. Senior lecturers at Oxford and Cambridge almost revolted and that ushered in a change of titles. It was embarrassing for them at international conferences. I might block him, he's started edit warring and his edits violate NPOV and particularly BLP. On my iPad in a car swinging around, no fun editing! Doug Weller talk 07:24, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

If I get a chance I'll take a look. Primefac (talk) 20:00, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

They've commented on my talk page where I've made a short reply, no more time tonight. I had a ten+ hour drive today to pick up a new dog, zonked. Doug Weller talk 20:44, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Admin's Barnstar
	This is for your valuable contributions to Wikipedia as an Administrator. Thank you. PATH SLOPU 10:07, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks! Primefac (talk) 20:00, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Cyclone Dineo

Hi @Primefac: Could you get rid of this redirect. I would like to put draft at Draft:Cyclone Dineo into it. Thanks. scope_creep^Talk 15:42, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

 Done. ​ Primefac (talk) 16:11, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Unused type parameter by Template:Cleanup-SVG

Looking over Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2019_April_3#Template:Cleanup-SVG, I'm thinking there's no need for Twinkle to include {{Cleanup-SVG}}? It uses type=SVG per Ahecht, but {{Cleanup image}} doesn't take a type parameter, so it doesn't do anything, right? Maybe it could still add to Category:SVGs for cleanup, which is (oddly?) not a subcategory of Category:Files for cleanup? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amorymeltzer (talk • contribs) 19:00, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Ugh... this is what I get for closing a discussion with a fairly clear consensus and then find out the participants had no idea what's going on. I suppose we should either add a param to {{cleanup image}} or just turn {{cleanup-SVG}} into a redirect. Primefac (talk) 19:08, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

I hear ya! There could be a conversation to have about using {{cleanup image}} to sub-categorize images, but given the size of the category that might not be worthwhile. It's long enough ago and you made the merge, so you could open a DRV if you like? There're no transclusions, so unless you or Ahecht disagree, I think I'll just redirect it tomorrow. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 20:18, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

If it were a huge category, splitting it into the image types (even by sorting, not subcats) would be useful, but yeah, with the cat having <100 pages in it, there's not much need. I'll redirect the wrapper for now. Primefac (talk) 12:08, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Everett Stern

Hi @Primefac:. I hope you are doing well and thank you for being the main moderator for my page. I read through all of these alerts I received and I wrote up a paragraph on my talk page for you and the other moderators to give a better understanding. I am getting alot of questions regarding Netflix and the show is growing and growing. I am being invited to give speeches across the country. People are researching me and you are simply going to have more activity from my page. Pleaee read my comments though on how I feel about some of the things people are trying to do. At the end of the day the moderators decide and I am not trying to influence or change things. I am simply trying to introduce another side to this. I actually agree with you taking out the Clandestine service for different reasons though. Thank you for helping make my page as accurate as possible. Everettstern (talk) 04:08, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Pangolin876

Hi @Primefac:, I am reviewing all of these alerts. May you please bann Pangolin876 from creating a company page for me. I am not sure why this person or group is trying to do this and they have my company spelled wrong and as an intellgiece director there is something wrong with this. This person does not represent me or anyone from my organization. I have not hired anyone to do ANYTHING for me on wikipedia. I am reading some of there comments and they are the ones going through my campaign donations. I do not like where this is going. If Tactical Rabbit is going to submit a company page I would want it to be offical and me disclosing it has official company contributions to it. Every other of my competitors have done this. We are a large company and this has to be done properly. No adverisement page. In fact the Everett Stern page covers Tactcial Rabbit tremendously so I am not sure we need a page. Either way I do not like how this person or group inserted themselves. If they want to comment on my page that is fine but submitting pages for my company? There is bad faith in that and I am concerned. What was even submitted? Was it accurate? If it read like an advertisement as I read then what message were they trying to convey? If we are going to have a company page for a company I built from nothing it had better be accurate. I dont want him or her notified. They could even be a group of people trying to commit some kind of scam against me. They see a high profile figure with a company and no company site and then they try to hit me up for money after it is up... There are a number of bad guys can try and get me with this. After my previous experience I do not like the way this looks. I just want them blocked please. I have nothing to do with this and I do NOT want a company page from this person or group. I he/she/or group was legit why not notify me about the company page? I just ran accross it when I clicked on their name and a Tactical Rabbit Submission popped up. If they felt the need to create a company page for me then why not post to me saying "Hey we love your work we are going to do research and try to get a company page going." That is not what happened. Randomly forming a company page? Something is off. Everettstern (talk) 04:43, 2 June 2019 (UTC) --- I just read another moderators post about multiple users or accounts this person is using. I am now seriously concerned. I have not hired anyone to do anything to my Wikipedia. I actually like it the way it is. As someone who has been targeted before I am concerened about being set up again. If someone wants to make changes to my page - good or bad - I am all for that as long as it is in good faith. As someone who is nationally known for his ethics I have a real problem with what is going on. If someone or a group is making changes to my account especially in the formation of company pages then I have an issue. Of course you are asking if this person or group is being paid by me. It looks very suspicious. Now that I am looking at it the statements and changes are accurate but why the company page? I think these people or person are trying to set me up a house of cards that they can extort and and then the house comes down. This is the same situation like before except I have not been approached yet. A group of college kids watching Netflix and doing research on me and think Tactical Rabbit is cool leading to a dradt up of a page is one thing, but this is different. I have nothing to prove my allegations, but all I can say whatever this user is trying to submit for me - I do not want it. I want to make that very clear. I am not interested in some random Tactical Rabbit page being created about me by who knows who with an unknown intention. I do not want to have to worry about this or my page being attacked. My moderators have always looked out for me. Please watch out for an attack on the page. And please ban this user as they are clearly doing things that me or my associates have not authorized. I am going to be signing off of Wikiepedia for a while again as I rarely check this. I sign back in and post if I am approached with an extortion attempt. Thank you for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Everettstern (talk • contribs) 06:24, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

SEA Games RM closure

Hi. Could you reconsider your closure of Talk:Southeast Asian Games#Requested move 26 May 2019? The second !voter provided a rationale that seemed apparently confused, since the move in question concerned only "SEA Games", not any other iteration of "SEA", and was in no way ambiguous like the (rather irrelevant) WWF example they cited. To me it seems the outcome would be "no consensus" at best. --Paul_012 (talk) 06:05, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Paul 012 their point was that SEA points to the dab where there are a lot of possible acronyms, which is how I interpreted it. You made a reasonable argument, but those opposed made better ones. Primefac (talk) 10:32, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Can't say I find those to be sound policy-based arguments, but thanks anyway. It's your call, of course. --Paul_012 (talk) 15:14, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2019 May 28#Template:Infobox Prefecture Japan

Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2019_May_28#Template:Infobox_Prefecture_Japan - it was 3 "replace and delete" and 2 "keep" when you relisted, could you explain why? @Pigsonthewing: 78.54.88.162 (talk) 14:57, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Because that implies there are opinions that fall on both sides of the debate. TFD isn't a numerical vote, and I found that the arguments were reasonable enough to merit relisting. Primefac (talk) 15:40, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Which keep argument was reasonable? 77.13.28.252 (talk) 15:55, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Talk page vandalism

Lachlb not only mass edits article and template space against consensus, but also removes talk, now the second time, first:

• https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Infobox_time_zone_UTC&diff=899620556&oldid=899194048

77.13.28.252 (talk) 15:54, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

I didn't make the connection with their edits on the template talk until just now, but I agree they're problematic and have left them a note. If you think they're being disruptive with regards to time-related articles in general, you should bring it to WP:ANI. Make sure that you have diffs to demonstrate your concerns with their editing habits. Primefac (talk) 16:14, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

I think you forgot to add time zones down when you edited Template:Infobox time zone UTC

Hi Primefac, I think you made a mistake when you edited Template:Infobox time zone UTC by forgetting to add time zones UTC-10:30, UTC-08:30, UTC+07:30 and UTC+09:45. Can you please add these time zones down because I think you forgot to put them down, thank you. Lachlb (talk) 09:07, 6 June 2019 (UTC

I haven't done anything to the template other than restoring the last "good" version before the edit warring started. If there are things missing, add them to the sandbox and get consensus to update the main template. Primefac (talk) 10:34, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Redlinked Entry

What is a redlinked entry? Did it just need a source or was it because the actor didn't have a wikipedia entry?