User talk:C.Fred

Use of Rollback...

This wasn't obvious vandalism and likely deserved an edit summary. Please don't use rollback to advance a content dispute. Cheers! –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 02:47, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

@MJL: It looks similar enough to other changes I'd seen in the past that were non-constructive that I hit rollback. I'll double-check the diff on the next one to see if there's baby in with the bathwater. —C.Fred (talk) 02:49, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

[Thank you for the ping] It's not about whether or not the edit is constructive, though. It's about whether the edit qualifies for one of the five reasons to use rollback. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 03:02, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Looked like a perfectly good use of rollback. "advance a content dispute"??--Bbb23 (talk) 06:32, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Stricken that portion. Bad faith remark that likely came out of a poor mood on my own part due to IRL circumstances. Fred you have my apologies there. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 00:11, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Lamar University Editing

C.Fred As a newbie to Wikipedia merely trying to update incorrect information on Lamar University's Wikipedia page, I was unaware of the conflict of interest policy. What is the best way to get the information updated - almost all of it needs some revisions - and not violate any policies? Truly didn't mean to cause problems. Please advise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shellyvitanza (talk • contribs) 20:41, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

@Shellyvitanza: The best way is to follow the guidance for editors with conflicts of interest. In short, don't change the article directly. Instead, request your change on the talk page. Specify what you want to change or add and what reliable sources—preferably sources independent of the university—support the change. Then, independent editors can review the changes and make them, if everything checks out. —C.Fred (talk) 20:58, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

Need help

Bonaniiiia (talk · contribs · count) I see that you have warned this user before, they are hell bent on this article (Melissa Benoist) and they obviously want it their way. Not sure how to get their attention, maybe you have a solution. Thanx, - FlightTime (open channel) 15:24, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

Note: I haven't gone through all the edits, but it just seems excessive, I could be wrong here, hence the request that you have a look. Thank you, - FlightTime (open channel) 15:28, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

Question About Edits I Made

Hi C.Fred, thank you for reviving the Childhood Emotional Neglect page so I can edit it. I did the edits last week and I thought I submitted them but I got no email or confirmation of anything. I am concerned that if it didn't actually submit, the page may go defunct again. How can I find out the status of this page? Thank you for any help you can offer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jwebbphd (talk • contribs) 16:04, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

@Jwebbphd: I can see where you added the link to the draft. I can also see where Ruslik0 removed the link to keep the draft in compliance with Wikipedia's guidelines on external links. You can look at the editing history of the draft to see what edits have been made. If there's no activity on the page in six months, then it's subject to automatic deletion. —C.Fred (talk) 17:35, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

Article recreation

Good afternoon, thank you for your contributions lately, very helpful and i have improved. So there is an article i made several weeks back which was deleted and blocked for recreation because of repeated recreations. However the subject i see it relevant and also because being local, i see what and who is prominant or a name that is getting attention locally thus becoming notable.

I am referring to Ashlee Nyathi page, and i am seeking your assistance in creating it because i think the last time i created it i did not structure it well and some editors were not impressed but then the way it was deleted looking at the time in research i put, it was disheartening but however i know you can make it better.

I also noticed that the person has been featured on some new news articles since the last time the page was deleted and below are the articles;

• https://www.263chat.com/five-emerging-entrepreneurs-under-25/

• https://www.hmetro.co.zw/harares-rising-matemba-entrepreneur-ashlee-nyathi/

• https://www.thestandard.co.zw/2019/06/19/govt-urged-support-smes-sector/

Some of the articles from previous creation include;

• https://www.newsday.co.zw/2019/04/nyathi-breathes-life-into-ghetto-dancers/amp/

• https://www.herald.co.zw/dancer-dreams-big/amp/

• https://www.hmetro.co.zw/dancer-turns-entrepreneur/amp/

• https://allafrica.com/stories/201905020851.html

• https://www.thezimbabwedaily.com/news/330604-nyathi-breathes-life-into-ghetto-dancers.html/amp

• https://www.263chat.com/amp/the-story-of-a-23-year-old-who-saw-dubai-by-selling-kapenta/

• https://www.sundaymail.co.zw/from-the-dancefloor-to-entrepreneurship

With this coverage i think with your assistance in creating this page we can have a better article.

Hurungudo (talk) 19:04, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

@Hurungudo: Unfortunately, I don't think those new sources show that there is in-depth, significant coverage of Nyathi. They are primarily interviews. —C.Fred (talk) 19:43, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

• Ok so can you create then we develop it or we wait to see if there can be further coverage? Hurungudo (talk) 20:09, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

@Hurungudo: You could ask the deleting admin if they're willing to restore it to draft space and work on the article there. —C.Fred (talk) 20:23, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

got milk?

Hj. I edited the History section for "got milk?", factually stating the phrase itself was submitted for consideration by David Williams. He's my father. I have no association to the advertising agency, and I'm not employed by any group or company mentioned on this page. My father was a milk transportation executive, from MEDA, to WDCI and then with DFA, before his unexpected passing. He was highly respected in the transportation industry. He came up with the phrase "got milk?" long before it was used in advertising. I clearly remember him talking about it, and as a member of the Western Dairy Council, submitting it for consideration. A period of time went by, with my father mentioning to the family the advertising agency didn't think much of the phrase because it was grammatically incorrect, before he said they chose to go forward with it. My father explained someone going into a convenience store would dispense with "Do you have milk?" to the cashier in favor of "got milk?", which was shorter, simple, and to the point. And, while the grammar was incorrect, it was something someone very well might say, and for a slogan, it sounded better than "do you have milk?". I have personal knowledge of the origins of the phrase, and wanted to share it with others. Is this a conflict of interest? I don't believe so. My father isn't mentioned on the page, and I neither criticize nor support any single person, entity, group or company mentioned before my edit. I merely chose to state the truth and facts. I noticed KH-1 removed my edit, and I read a message from said person asking for "source" on my edit. As I stated in reply, I'm the source by knowing the factual details, by personal knowledge.

Is there something wrong with this? ChrisCO303 (talk) 00:49, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) @ChrisCO303: Personal knowledge is not verifiable, either by an editor or one of our readers and therefore not acceptable. Yes, (if your claim is deemed true, I not it's not) it would be a conflict of interest. - FlightTime (open channel) 00:57, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

@ChrisCO303: First, you very clearly have a conflict of interest, because you are writing about your father. There is always a COI when a person is writing about themselves, a family member, or a spouse. Second, you are trying to add information which is coming from personal recollection. This is considered original research, and original research is not allowed in Wikipedia articles. Wikipedia articles must be verifiable against information found in reliable sources. —C.Fred (talk) 00:59, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Question

I was wondering if you could assist me in creating a page for my company that doesn't violate Wikipedia's guidelines. The thing is, I modeled the page I created after other pages about companies in my business space. Those pages haven't been deleted, but mine was, which honestly seems hypocritical to me. Here are URLs for those pages: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pimcore, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akeneo, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Informatica. Thank you! Ceejaysteku (talk) 14:30, 26 July 2019 (UTC)