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Mayor Quimby

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Not seeing how this fictional character passes WP:GNG/WP:NFICTION. Pure WP:PLOT. Real world impact and significance limited to a single mention of him during a real world election campaign. Hardly sufficient to warrant a stand alone article. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:26, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:26, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Lightburst (talk) 02:36, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep There is enough coverage for this recurring character from the longest-running primetime scripted series The Simpsons. Lightburst (talk) 02:58, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Care to actually link it here and provide a shred of analysis that would suggest they go beyond mentions in passing/repeating fictional character biography? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:36, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Well known character in long-running televsion series. WP:GNG met based on the following references - 1 2 3 4, particularly refs 2 and 3. FOARP (talk) 08:34, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- A paragraph stating that 'he is a stereotypical [caricature of] a politician" is hardly an in-depth analysis and no source goes beyond that. Even the dog and the cat of the Simpsons family are streotypical caricatures of cats and dogs, Neither is notable... --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 13:02, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Did you read either the Guardian article or the iPolitics article? To be clear, the Guardian article is some 10 paragraphs and ~1000 words long, all of which compares the Quimby character to real-world equivalents and as such discusses the character in depth. FOARP (talk) 13:54, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@FOARP: I did, and it's few mentions in passing, out of which the best is "Quimby is good satire for a reason. He embodies exactly we suspect of small-time populist politicians: that they’re two-bit and on the take. Quimby’s stock self-endorsement (“Vote Quimby!”) no matter the situation – say, caught during an extramarital moment at the Sleep-Eazy Motel – is the calling card of a panderer we all recognise: the politician whose own crookedness has convinced him that no scandal could ever outlive the permanent campaign." I don't think a sentence or two can be argued to be in-depth coverage. If all that can be said about a character when it comes to real world impact/reception/analysis is that he is a caricature of the politician, with maybe a sentence explaining it, I don't think that's sufficient to merit a stand alone article. Now, if there was a source that analyzed how Quimby (or Wiggum) fit into such stereotypes for a few paragraphs, discussing different dimension of said streotypes and how they fit in them, I'd be convinced that's good enough. But all we have for them are one-two liners. I am sorry, this can be better managed in a list. There is nothing to justify splitting them from a list into stand-alone articles, once fictional bio cruft/media appearances trivia list is cut. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 01:41, 15 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to List of recurring Simpsons characters, the references are not about Quimby, generally, just reference him in regards to other topics._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 01:02, 15 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep due to significance to millions of people in the real world. --131.123.51.67 (talk) 15:35, 15 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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 ::::{{rto|FOARP}} I did, and it's few mentions in passing, out of which the best is "Quimby is good satire for a reason. He embodies exactly we suspect of small-time populist politicians: that they’re two-bit and on the take. Quimby’s stock self-endorsement (“Vote Quimby!”) no matter the situation – say, caught during an extramarital moment at the Sleep-Eazy Motel – is the calling card of a panderer we all recognise: the politician whose own crookedness has convinced him that no scandal could ever outlive the permanent campaign." I don't think a sentence or two can be argued to be in-depth coverage. If all that can be said about a character when it comes to real world impact/reception/analysis is that he is a caricature of the politician, with maybe a sentence explaining it, I don't think that's sufficient to merit a stand alone article. Now, if there was a source that analyzed how Quimby  (or Wiggum) fit into such stereotypes for a few paragraphs, discussing different dimension of said streotypes and how they fit in them, I'd be convinced that's good enough. But all we have for them are one-two liners. I am sorry, this can be better managed in a list. There is nothing to justify splitting them from a list into stand-alone articles, once fictional bio cruft/media appearances trivia list is cut. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]&#124;[[User talk:Piotrus|<span style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</span>]]</sub> 01:41, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
 *'''Merge''' to [[List of recurring Simpsons characters]], the references are not about Quimby, generally, just reference him in regards to other topics.<sub><small>[[User:Zxcvbnm|ZXCVBNM]] ([[User Talk:Zxcvbnm|TALK]])</small></sub> 01:02, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
+*'''Keep''' due to significance to millions of people in the real world.  --[[Special:Contributions/131.123.51.67|131.123.51.67]] ([[User talk:131.123.51.67|talk]]) 15:35, 15 November 2019 (UTC)