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: {{u|VaJaMe}}, it needs a lot more outside external references and it needs to not look like a copy of the website in its formatting of verbiage. It shouldn't have a mission statement like that. It can have a history section on how it was formed and has grown. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 02:25, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
: {{u|VaJaMe}}, it needs a lot more outside external references and it needs to not look like a copy of the website in its formatting of verbiage. It shouldn't have a mission statement like that. It can have a history section on how it was formed and has grown. [[User:AngusWOOF|<strong><span style="color: #606060;">AngusWOOF</span></strong>]] ([[User talk:AngusWOOF#top|<span style=" color: #663300;">bark</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AngusWOOF|<span style="color: #006600;">sniff</span>]]) 02:25, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Dear AngusWoof, would you be so kind and check if the amount of external sources is sufficient now? Moreover, I've edited the mission statement section. Your feedback is very valuable for me in order to understand the rules of Wikipedia better. Thanks in advance. --[[User:VaJaMe|VaJaMe]] ([[User talk:VaJaMe|talk]]) 08:31, 15 June 2020 (UTC)


== White Panda ==
== White Panda ==

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Jay Munly's Wikipedia Page

Hi, I responded to your other notes on my own talk page for Jay Munly. I can copy/paste them here.

One more thing: I saw this note when going through the revision history today: "use musical artist instead of person"

I just wanted to let you know that when I started to revise the page in March, I started modeling it after both Jack White's page and Taylor Swift's. Jack White has a combined musical artist and person infobox, which looked like a good idea to me. Since he's a pretty popular/famous artist, I thought that'd be the right format to use.

I thank you for the rest of your edits and notes as well - it's been a big learning curve for me! - Xx rapunzel xx (talk) 01:09, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Xx rapunzel xx, that's fine, it can go to infobox person later when they become more of a celeb than a singer/musician. Keep finding those external news sources like Billboard, Rolling Stone, newspapers outside of Denver's immediate area. Those will help keep his stuff notable. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 01:18, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Good evening, xx rapunzel xx here. I'm looking over all these edits that you made... wow. It's a lot for me to take in! I have a few questions:

  • I came across the DOB on social media and the year on one of those background check sites. This is an example where the date is more widely known than the year, but would citing social media be acceptable?
  • The obituaries I have are on sites like "tributes.com" - doesn't sound like a news source to me. As per your note, I should delete those and the info with it, right? If so, I have to remove a lot of things, then.
  • How come sites like "Discogs" or "Genius.com" for lyrics aren't good sources? Should I use sources like bandcamp or the band's own website? The thing is that lyrics aren't easy to come by since they aren't usually published.
  • Not a question: The 'controversial lyrics' section doesn't have to be reinstated. I guess it was a way for me, as a fan, to address problematic things while also trying to protect the artist. It was kind of a 'CYA' thing for the artist and for me too. It doesn't need to be there. There really hasn't been much outrage except for one site which mentions it but isn't calling for a full-on boycott. I'm assuming that the other part of that section, now renamed 'Public Image' is mostly okay except for the 'peacock prose'.
  • Not a question: Under 'Other Ventures': I have no idea what the plays are called. Children's stories: that's the only source I know that mentions that. Copper Nickel #5: I got that info from munlymunly.com, which is only a fansite apparently, although no one knows who that fan is. The only reason I know the title of the story is because I found a post on Tumblr that said so. The official University of CO site has an archive that doesn't go back that far, and Amazon does not have a list of contributors or a table of contents to view.
  • Under 'Personal life': should I delete the text under the warning box?

When I first came across Munly's page, there wasn't much information there and I thought that was due to neglect... I now see that it probably was due to WP's strict guidelines. TBH, I'm at a standstill and I'm not sure whether I should start drafting related band pages. - Xx rapunzel xx (talk) 00:12, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Xx rapunzel xx, thanks for commenting. Sorry some of the cuts were rather severe, but I'm trying to make sure the trivial tidbits are cleared out. It would be good if there was more detail on his albums and singles, as well as national tours and reviews. If most of his notoriety came from SCAC then that section could be supported with those sources.
Social media from Munly himself would be okay as WP:TWITTER but if he only confirms month and day, then you will need an external news article to confirm the birth year. Public search records (court, DMV, property, marriage, etc.) are not allowed.
For obituaries, you can cite the actual newspaper if it was published in one of those.
Discogs is a user-generated database. If you are wanting to cite pictures of albums and singles, then you can cite the album itself or album cover or liner notes.
Genius shouldn't be used. If another news article cites lyrics, use that instead. Yes, some of his lyrics might get the Parental Content warning sticker, but unless it's been discussed by a separate critic in an external news review, then it doesn't need to be listed. Bandcamp is self-published material but again, why need to list out his lyrics like that? I don't see the relevance.
You don't need to protect the artist, in fact, it's better that you don't for WP:COI purposes. See WP:PROUD. If they're notable enough to have a page, they are subject to have not-so-favorable news brought up, provided it shows up in reliable news sources.
As for plays and children's books, I would only list them if they are recognized by external news sources. He could have a number of projects going, such as YouTube videos.
Personal life. I kept it to his immediate family, live-in partner, and religious affiliation, but you can update/cut where appropriate.
As for drafting related band pages, just keep in mind the WP:NMUSIC criteria and if they meet that, then they have a good hance of going through. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 00:44, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Didn't realize that Ext. Links go under Refs - I think they'd go unnoticed since "refs" signal that I've reached the end of the article and I don't read anymore. Xx rapunzel xx (talk) 20:30, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Good Morning! Last week, you tagged one of my edits as 'peacock prose'. Do I delete all these names? How would I write it from a more neutral POV? - Xx rapunzel xx (talk) 13:11, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Xx rapunzel xx, that paragraph just contains a bunch of name drops. It needs to be rewritten to describe who and from where it's making the comparisons to the authors and other writers. More detail would be good. In the Jennifer Hale article there's just a single reference from a writer comparing her to Meryl Streep. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 15:54, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

New: Hi! So we meet again. I see what you did with the discography - should I do the same for Slim Cessna's Auto Club? - Xx rapunzel xx (talk) 22:47, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

New: I have another question to ask you: the link you put that directs you to the SCAC discography page - is it possible to do that in place of a wiki link? Can I replace the text with a name to it goes to a certain section with their info? Or is that not how that works? - Xx rapunzel xx (talk) 21:25, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Xx rapunzel xx, regarding that direct to discography, you can look at Template:Main and see how that goes to the section. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 22:33, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

World Federation of ADHD

Dear AngusWOOF, thanks for your valuable feedback to my draft of the article for the World Federation of ADHD. I've checked your comments and updated the draft accordingly by adding more external and internal sources. I hope the re-submission finds your approval. Best, VaJaMe — Preceding unsigned comment added by VaJaMe (talk • contribs) 07:27, 8 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

VaJaMe, can you use references instead of embedded links? AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 23:46, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

AngusWOOF, thanks for the inspiration, I changed several embedded links into references and hope this is more satisfying now. Anything else I could improve? We use The Movement Disorder Society as our role model and I cannot see so many differences to our association. --VaJaMe (talk) 13:17, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

VaJaMe, it needs a lot more outside external references and it needs to not look like a copy of the website in its formatting of verbiage. It shouldn't have a mission statement like that. It can have a history section on how it was formed and has grown. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 02:25, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dear AngusWoof, would you be so kind and check if the amount of external sources is sufficient now? Moreover, I've edited the mission statement section. Your feedback is very valuable for me in order to understand the rules of Wikipedia better. Thanks in advance. --VaJaMe (talk) 08:31, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

White Panda

Hi Angus! Thank you for reviewing my article, Draft:White_Panda. I have a few questions about notability. You mentioned it needs more external verificability, either from charting or independent sources, and I am looking for guidance based on this.

For charting, since The White Panda were a mashup artist, their music was ineligible to be sold, and therefore ineligible to chart, while they were still popular enough to go on national tours, and be called the next generation of mashup artists by Entertainment Weekly. Perhaps this poses a unique challenge to establishing verificability this way?

Second, I've found 4 major independent sources: Entertainment Weekly, Delaware News Journal, SFGate, and Vibe. I found some college newspaper pieces and online music magazines, but read that they generally do not count to establish notability. I can look for more sources, but I'd like to know what to aim for.

Thanks! Semitones (talk) 16:38, 24 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Semitones, it looks like they have one single that charted. I'm trying to see if there are more in-depth articles. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 17:07, 24 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I'm finding a lot of articles are are referencing specific performances. They seem like they go beyond reporting upcoming concert dates. See if any of these are useful (I kept everything I found, good or bad)

Legit Sources


Minor Sources


Interviews

Semitones (talk) 18:50, 24 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Semitones, let's put that on the talk page, see what other AFC reviewers think. But really just need WP:THREE of the best ones and show how they qualify for WP:NMUSIC AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 20:23, 24 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hey AngusWOOF one question I have about WP:NMUSIC regarding interviews -- the fact that an established music magazine like Vibe Magazine would have a feature interview -- does any part of that count towards notability? Even if it is an interview, and according to WP:NMUSIC it doesn't count as independent because it is a "\[publication\] where the musician or ensemble talks about themselves" ?" The interview is in an issue entitled "The EDM-Rap Mashup Divide" which I think lends weight to the argument that The White Panda were a visible, representative group of the subgenre.

I would be interested in using it as one of the WP:THREE for notability, but not if being an interview makes it not count.--Semitones (talk) 00:29, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Semitones, interviews can't be counted towards the WP:THREE for notability unless it's one of those kinds of interviews where the interviewer has a lot more in-depth research as with Lena Waithe's interview with Vanity Fair https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2018/03/lena-waithe-cover-story. If it's mostly Q&A, then it's a primary source. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 02:28, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Dolphin Club (San Francisco)

Whilst the article’s creator has a substantial connection to the club I wrote the bulk of the text and whilst I’ve visited San Francisco (a long time ago) I have no connection to the club. Dan arndt (talk) 00:12, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dan arndt, thanks. I marked the article as checked for neutrality by you on the talk page. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 00:28, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I've taken it off my watchlist. I did note that the Dolphin South End Runners' article is woefully inadequate. Dan arndt (talk) 01:30, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Jonas Paul Eyewear

Hello, thanks for reviewing.

I am not sure what do you mean by Still relatively WP:MILL business needs more extensive coverage. The company has been coverage by various sources and I do cite three major news sites (NBC[1], WSJ, and WWMT) as well as covered multiple times by the local Grand Rapids Business Journal. Inc. doesn't stablish notability but its worth mentioning. From my understanding these article pass WP:ORG.
The company is also covered in less known sources like Babiekins[2], Michigan Health[3], University & College Designers Association[4], Optometry Today[5], etc.
I look forward to more insight. Thanks again JRSQuest (talk) 18:58, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Boy's rare sight condition inspires 'Buy Sight, Give Sight' eyewear company". TODAY.com.
  2. ^ Barros, Priscila. "Giveaway // Jonas Paul Eyewear".
  3. ^ Shantell, Kirkendoll. "Peters Anomaly: Jonas' Story Regaining Sight & Jonas Paul Eyewear". healthblog.uofmhealth.org.
  4. ^ "JONAS PAUL EYEWEAR AWARDED THE 2015 UCDA FOUNDATION KRIDER PRIZE FOR CREATIVITY". UCDA.
  5. ^ White, John. ""Kids eyewear represented a chance for a creative outlet"". www.aop.org.uk. OT.
JRSQuest, NBC and WSJ look promising. I've consolidated the NBC source since they are using the same TV segment for both shows. If you want to note those on the AFC comments section, that would be helpful. I'd try to stay away from non-notable blog websites, but U&M Health might be okay. Optometry Today looks more like a press statement / interview. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 19:38, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I commented & fixed a few details. Resubmitted to get a third opinion. Thanks for your feedback.JRSQuest (talk) 12:29, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Al Ansari Exchange

Hi, AngusWOOF you want WP:THREE. These are WP:THREE 1. Pt8340 (talk) 13:46, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, You want WP:THREE. First three references in reference subtitle in Draft:Al Ansari Exchange page are WP: THREE. Early i used press release as reference. I didn't know Wikipedia don't accept press release as reference. I have improve this page. please review this page Pt8340 (talk) 14:12, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Swiss School of Higher Education

Hi, AngusWOOF! I have added additional sources and sent them for verification. Please, can you check them out? Thank you. Sources: https://www.bachelorsportal.com/countries/27/switzerland.html https://www.ecbe.eu/index.php/members/members-of-ecbe/24-memberinfo/264-member-info-swiss-school-of-higher-education https://adr.alice.ch/index.cfm?adr_key=25422:25422&search=sshe&adrsearchzuteilung=eduqua&adrkanton=0&adrort=0&adrland=0&adrbereich=0&adrregion=0&adrkeyword=&directory_action=dsp_addressdetail&content=home&paragraph=1&adrorder=adr_description1&spr=de https://www.efmdglobal.org/membership/list-of-members/ https://promove.ch/fr/content/swiss-school-higher-education

Vladislav at SSHE (talk) 15:12, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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