Talk:2020 stock market crash

Semi-protected edit request on 26 May 2020

Change: "In April 2019, the U.S yield curve inverted, which sparked fears of a 2020 recession across the world.[37] The inverted yield curve and trade war fears prompted a sell-off in global stock markets during March 2019, which prompted more fears that a recession was imminent.[38] Rising debt levels in the European Union and the United States had always being a concern for economists. However, in 2019, that concern was heightened during the economic slowdown, and economists began warning of a 'debt bomb' occurring during the next economic crisis. Debt in 2019 was 50% higher than that during the height of the Great Financial Crisis.[39] Economists[who?] have argued that this increased debt is what led to debt defaults in economies and businesses across the world during the recession.[40][41] In September 2019, the Federal Reserve began intervening in the role of investor to provide funds in the repo markets, which would play a crucial factor in triggering the events leading up to the crash; the repo rate spiked above 8% during that time."

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In April 2019, the U.S yield curve inverted, which sparked fears of a 2020 recession across the world.[37] The inverted yield curve and trade war fears prompted a sell-off in global stock markets during March 2019, which prompted more fears that a recession was imminent.[38]

Rising debt levels in the European Union and the United States had always being a concern for economists. However, in 2019, that concern was heightened during the economic slowdown, and economists began warning of a 'debt bomb' occurring during the next economic crisis. Debt in 2019 was 50% higher than that during the height of the Great Financial Crisis.[39] Economists[who?] have argued that this increased debt is what led to debt defaults in economies and businesses across the world during the recession.[40][41]

In September 2019, the Federal Reserve began intervening in the role of investor to provide funds in the repo markets, which would play a crucial factor in triggering the events leading up to the crash; the repo rate spiked above 8% during that time."

• There's no chain of causation between these points (see sources), and therefore do not grammatically belong in the same paragraph.

• There is no evidence within the source material that these points are "causes" of the subject of the article, though they are considered as such, and should probably be relegated to a different section. Simmm84 (talk) 04:33, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. Ignore my previous comment; I was confused by the layout of your request (see WP:INDENT - I though somebody had already replied to it). Anyway, in my opinion, the paragraph is proper because all of these events are closely linked in time; separating them does not appear necessary. They're also clearly a part of the background of the situation, even if they're not the immediate cause (maybe a simple solution for this would be to simply remove the "Cause" subheading from the "Background" section. @Simmm84: Thanks, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 13:48, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

That sounds like a good compromise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Simmm84 (talk • contribs) 05:48, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Remove "Causes" Subheading from Background Section

The sources for the information under the background heading do no indicate that the provided information is a cause for the stock market crash, and therefore should strictly be considered background Simmm84 (talk) 05:55, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

April - May????

Why is this an ongoing crisis if there is no information on April or May? Could that be because the Market has recovered significantly, i.e. back above 25,000? That Bull market sure didn't last long. As the President said it wouldn't. Subman758 (talk) 15:28, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

@Subman758: This is usually a typical pattern in stock market crashes. Most stock market crashes take around 200 to 500 days to run it's course, and through that period the stock market goes up and down as it continues to crash. Sometimes, it can be refferred to as a "bear market trap". In the next year or two it'll be obvious when the stock market stopepd crashing. Foxterria (talk) 10:58, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

@Foxterria: Get the gang together from February and March. We need to be proactive if a bear market trap does occur. I'm more than willing to write summaries of the daily price movements for the main benchmark stock market indices of the G20, as well as any monetary/fiscal stimulus policies announced in those same countries, any central government credit rating downgrades and so on if a subsequent downward market trend occurs. However, during the market downturn in February and March, I got burnt out and I'm still exhausted because there are any number of other topics that I record information about on Wikipedia. I'm drowning in info.

I remember that some people last time asked about how to set up Google Alerts. If you just type "Google Alert" in the Google search engine, the first result is a link that will take you to the Google web page for setting up email alerts to your Gmail account. The ones I was using were "[Name of country] fiscal stimulus", "[Name of central bank]", "[Name of country] central bank", "[Finance minister name]", and "[Central bank executive name]". "[Name of benchmark stock market index] bear market" probably would be the most efficient one for articles recording that a benchmark stock market index has been declared to be in a bear market. If people just leave the links on the talk page, I'll more than gladly summarize them in the article. Countries other than the G20 are of course more than welcome but preferably limit them to articles recording a macroeconomic policy shift, a central government credit rating downgrade, or articles that summarize the entire market trend because we don't want the article to get even more overloaded than it already is. -- CommonKnowledgeCreator (talk) 17:43, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Also, references without paywalls preferred (e.g. CNBC, Reuters). -- CommonKnowledgeCreator (talk) 17:47, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Although if there is a choice between a CNBC or Reuters article and a local English-language daily newspaper without paywalls, give it to the local. -- CommonKnowledgeCreator (talk) 17:49, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 June 2020

71.248.161.3 (talk) 20:56, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

The markets recovered and continued to climb.