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By the end of June, [[User_talk:Marvin_2009#Notice_that_you_are_now_subject_to_an_arbitration_enforcement_sanction|I was informed for indefinite topic ban from Falun Gong in response to PatCheng's arbitration enforcement request]]. On July 27, both {{diff2|969900688|PatCheng}} and {{diff2|969900750|PCPP}} were blocked, as PatCheng has been confirmed to be a sock puppet of PCPP who {{diff2|459824731|has topic banned on Falun Gong since Nov 2011}}. I am requesting a clarification that whether the topic ban enforced on me due to PatCheng's AE request should be nullified? Thanks. [[user talk:Marvin 2009 |Precious Stone (Marvin 2009)]] 05:27, 1 August 2020 (UTC) |
By the end of June, [[User_talk:Marvin_2009#Notice_that_you_are_now_subject_to_an_arbitration_enforcement_sanction|I was informed for indefinite topic ban from Falun Gong in response to PatCheng's arbitration enforcement request]]. On July 27, both {{diff2|969900688|PatCheng}} and {{diff2|969900750|PCPP}} were blocked, as PatCheng has been confirmed to be a sock puppet of PCPP who {{diff2|459824731|has topic banned on Falun Gong since Nov 2011}}. I am requesting a clarification that whether the topic ban enforced on me due to PatCheng's AE request should be nullified? Thanks. [[user talk:Marvin 2009 |Precious Stone (Marvin 2009)]] 05:27, 1 August 2020 (UTC) |
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{{re|Tantusa}} In response to PatCheng's complain, yes, in the beginning one admin was concerned about edit warring and aspersions casting.[[User_talk:Marvin_2009/AEresponse#A.Communication_with_admin_Seraphimbladei I replied to the admin right away at that time]] explaining how each of my altogether 7 edits in June was not edit warring (even not 1RR), and nor did i cast any aspersions in communicating with others. On the contrary, I was the one who was attacked by POV editors. After that, there has been no further response from that admin. Thanks. [[user talk:Marvin 2009 |Precious Stone (Marvin 2009)]] 13:38, 1 August 2020 (UTC) |
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=== Statement by PatCheng === |
=== Statement by PatCheng === |
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Currently, there are no requests for arbitration.
Request name | Motions | Case | Posted |
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Amendment request: Falun Gong | none | (orig. case) | 1 August 2020 |
No arbitrator motions are currently open.
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Amendment request: Falun Gong
Initiated by Marvin 2009 at 05:27, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
- List of any users involved or directly affected, and confirmation that all are aware of the request
- Marvin 2009 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) (initiator)
- PatCheng (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- PCPP (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Guerillero (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA)
- Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request
- Information about amendment request
Statement by Marvin 2009
Can an editor who has been under topic banned use a sock puppet to report another editor to arbitration enforcement? Clearly not. And if the editor do so before the sock puppetry is uncovered, should any sanction arising from his or her complaint be nullified, after the sock puppetry is uncovered?
By the end of June, I was informed for indefinite topic ban from Falun Gong in response to PatCheng's arbitration enforcement request. On July 27, both PatCheng and PCPP were blocked, as PatCheng has been confirmed to be a sock puppet of PCPP who has topic banned on Falun Gong since Nov 2011. I am requesting a clarification that whether the topic ban enforced on me due to PatCheng's AE request should be nullified? Thanks. Precious Stone (Marvin 2009) 05:27, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
@Tantusa: In response to PatCheng's complain, yes, in the beginning one admin was concerned about edit warring and aspersions casting.User_talk:Marvin_2009/AEresponse#A.Communication_with_admin_Seraphimbladei I replied to the admin right away at that time explaining how each of my altogether 7 edits in June was not edit warring (even not 1RR), and nor did i cast any aspersions in communicating with others. On the contrary, I was the one who was attacked by POV editors. After that, there has been no further response from that admin. Thanks. Precious Stone (Marvin 2009) 13:38, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
Statement by PatCheng
Statement by PCPP
Statement by Guerillero
Statement by Newslinger
See the following discussions for context:
- WP:AN § Appealing my topic ban – posted 27 July 2020
- User talk:Guerillero § Could you please consider to cancel the topic ban added on me? – posted 28 July 2020
This amendment request is Marvin 2009's third appeal of their topic ban this week. — Newslinger talk 09:46, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
Statement by Tantusar
That PatCheng was a sockpuppet seems to me to be largely irrelevant to whether Marvin 2009 should or should not have received a topic ban. The administrators on the enforcement request found that Marvin was edit warring and casting aspersions. PatCheng's behaviour does not change these findings. Suggest amendment request be denied. Tantusar (talk) 11:18, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
Statement by {other-editor}
Other editors are free to make relevant comments on this request as necessary. Comments here should opine whether and how the Committee should clarify or amend the decision or provide additional information.
Falun Gong: Clerk notes
- This area is used for notes by the clerks (including clerk recusals).
- This request seeks to overturn an arbitration enforcement action. I have therefore reformatted this request as an amendment request for the original case and named the administrator who imposed the sanction as a party. Best, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 05:43, 1 August 2020 (UTC)