Talk:Pasi (caste)

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Pasi caste

Pasi caste doesn't belong to untouchable , so don't write this word in wiki , pasi is successor of royal family like bijli pasi , lakhan pasi , madari pasi etc Ajeet -rawat1 (talk) 07:14, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Pasi not a untachable and not a dalit he is royal king caste Ranjit paswan (talk) 03:18, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 June 2020

Ranjit paswan (talk) 03:06, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Pasi not a dalit community Ranjit paswan (talk) 03:06, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

And not a untachable community pasi caste people protest your Wikipedia article so please change (remove) dalit or untachable community if you not edit this so protest wekipedia website 🙏🕉️ Ranjit paswan (talk) 03:09, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

So please remove this bad word okk

Ranjit paswan (talk) 03:11, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

 Not done Do you have any sources for the change? -- Alexf^(talk) 03:48, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Lack of information on History

1. There are warriors icons such as Uda Devi, Maharaja Lakhan Pasi his name is written in the stone as "Maharaja" meaning King, Maharaja Bijli Pasi(King Lightning) was the leader of an extensive 12th century kingdom ruled in Awadh region. He is supposed to have consolidated his position and regned over large tracts of land in the medieval period. He was contemporary of Prithviraj Chauhan and is credited with founding Bijnor(Small town near Lucknow. He constructed twelve forts which still remain in Lucknow

Also from other source Indicating pasi Ruler existed, taken directly from source. During the course of field investigation among the Pasi they claimed a glorious past. They proudly talked of the princely States and territories ruled by them, especially in Avadh region. The Raj Pasi section particularly claimed its descent from the rulers. As mentioned earlier. the etymological significance of the term 'Raj' is derived from 'royal' or 'lineage from kings~. The Pasi claimed that at one time they held 22 chieftainshipS in Avadh alone. In support of their claim they repoted certain cities and towns which were named after certain Pasi rulers. In this connection. by way of illustration, they mentioned that Lucknow city was named after Raja Lakhan, Malihabad after Raja Mullaha. Satrik after Satan, Bijnor after Bijin and Nagram after Nalgann _. all Pasi rulers. The claim of the Pasi regarding their pristine glory is supported by some earlier scholars. such as Elliot. Crooke and Russel. From the above account it would appear that although they might have exaggerated their claim of lordships in certain areas, their association with certain other Rajput kings or chiefs appears to suggest that in the past the Pasi did rule· some territories, especially in Avadhregion of Uttar Pradesh. As mentioned elsewhere, they were also associated with militia and continued their military traditions in theannies until recently. Besides. they also appear to have played an important role in the Indian revolt against the British in 1857 as they claim to have rescued Begum Hazrat Mahal of Avadh from the Britishers. " .

A study on quote from the source-"Agarwal (Eastern Anthropologist, Vol. XV. No.2, 1962; 161-164) found the Pasi and the Chamar of Hardai (U.P.) very similar in their skin colour, stature and general built-up. But On the basis of blood tests conducted by him he observed that serologically they are quite different from Chamar and, on the other hand, closer to the other Denotified Tribes of the area, such as the Bhat and Karwal. "

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Subham1337 (talk • contribs) 16:55, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

At a certain point we're just going to have to shut down talk page conversation. No one is denying that there "are no untouchables in today's society", but pretending there never were untouchables is what keeps setting off these huge talk page rants. Primefac (talk) 19:56, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

writing it as Scheduled Caste which it originally is would be more appropriate way. OBC(Other backword classes), SC(Scheduled caste), ST(Scheduled Tribe), Bhramin etc is a caste. Dalit(Untouchable) is not a caste it is a way of referring someone. Dalit can be Schedule Caste or Schedule tribe or even OBC. Pasi caste does not belong to ST or OBC. it is a Schedule Caste, do some research before writing? Changing it to Scheduled Caste won't change the fact that they belong to lower caste.

Change "The Pasi is a Dalit (untouchable) community of India." to "The Pasi community belongs to Scheduled Caste". To be specific. Apart from this the History section is very vague just barely scratch the surface at least add more content. p.s removed all the opinions and only information with sources. Subham1337 (talk) 22:37, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

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Lack of information

I m a resident of bihar and i could boldly say that pasi has traditionally been involved in toddy making not pig rearing which is an occupation of [dom community].Let me find other sources the article need little changes.Am i allowed? @Primefac:Heba Aisha (talk) 00:42, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

WP:V and WP:RS apply. There are thousands of caste communities and very few (competent) editors on Wikipedia who have an interest in them, so it is inevitable that things either drift or don't even get started. - Sitush (talk) 06:03, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

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Modify Introduction- Adding untouchable in first sentence is derogatory

Pasi Caste is a community mostly found in North India. Pasi refers to traditionally occupation is toddy tapping.[3] The Pasi are divided into Gujjar, Kaithwas, and Boria.[4] In the state of Andhra Pradesh,Telangana they have OBC status.[5][6] They live in the northern Indian states of Bihar and Uttar Pradesh. Pasi are ex-untouchable caste of India. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pra90 (talk • contribs) 20:28, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Dalit word is offensive and obliterates

Dalit word should be rectified as it's offensive and obliterates whereas this has been criticised and forbidden to use as per the law of the land. Also, referring to Pasi to Dalit will widen the community which may lead to the spread of misinformation as mentioned by many authors. Dalit word cover more than 200 castes in India and has different occupation and profession whereas primarily focusing upon caste would help the article to provide relevant information rather than involving the Dalit community. — Sanskari ^Hangout 04:47, 18 September 2020 (UTC)