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The reasoning behind the edits you [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Brown_(abolitionist)&diff=978807490&oldid=978799314 corrected here] is that these aren't "hatnotes" in that they're invisible. Stacking visible and invisible templates side-by-side has a nasty habit of introducing excessive whitespace if one is not careful. Furthermore, neither of these templates really impacts article editors; one just adds a non-mandatory lock notice, and the other is primarily for the sake of bots which wouldn't be able to readily divine the correct English variant from a skim of the subject. There's no real strong consensus either way as to where these go, but I do habitually get them out of the way of the lead as the more curly-bracket junk at the top of articles the more difficult it is for inexperienced editors to dive in. I'm not reverting but wanted to give you a heads-up. [[User:Thumperward|Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward)]] ([[User talk:Thumperward|talk]]) 15:22, 22 September 2020 (UTC) |
The reasoning behind the edits you [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Brown_(abolitionist)&diff=978807490&oldid=978799314 corrected here] is that these aren't "hatnotes" in that they're invisible. Stacking visible and invisible templates side-by-side has a nasty habit of introducing excessive whitespace if one is not careful. Furthermore, neither of these templates really impacts article editors; one just adds a non-mandatory lock notice, and the other is primarily for the sake of bots which wouldn't be able to readily divine the correct English variant from a skim of the subject. There's no real strong consensus either way as to where these go, but I do habitually get them out of the way of the lead as the more curly-bracket junk at the top of articles the more difficult it is for inexperienced editors to dive in. I'm not reverting but wanted to give you a heads-up. [[User:Thumperward|Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward)]] ([[User talk:Thumperward|talk]]) 15:22, 22 September 2020 (UTC) |
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:{{tps}} {{U|Thumperward}} and {{U|Dhtwiki}}, please see [[MOS:ORDER]], where there is a confusing note saying that "English variety and date style" templates can go at the top or the bottom. I suppose this means that they should not be moved from one place to the other unless there is consensus at an article or project level. – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 15:40, 22 September 2020 (UTC) |
:{{tps}} {{U|Thumperward}} and {{U|Dhtwiki}}, please see [[MOS:ORDER]], where there is a confusing note saying that "English variety and date style" templates can go at the top or the bottom. I suppose this means that they should not be moved from one place to the other unless there is consensus at an article or project level. – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 15:40, 22 September 2020 (UTC) |
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:: Rather than wasting our time on an entirely civil discussion about actual policy, why not cluebat {{user|Attic Salt}} for [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Brown_(abolitionist)&oldid=prev&diff=979747579 obvious MOS violations]? [[User:Thumperward|Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward)]] ([[User talk:Thumperward|talk]]) 21:41, 22 September 2020 (UTC) |
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Are you aware that you are busily changing British English to, I presume California English? Eddaido (talk) 23:28, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Eddaido: I'm busily trying to make the article clearer and more concise. What changes constitute California English? Some of those terms can be changed back, if necessary. However, there is a lot there that can stand improvement from a grammatical and compositional standpoint. I'm not new to editing British English articles nor am I unacquainted with fine old English car restorations. Dhtwiki (talk) 23:36, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
- I think you are busily changing things to things you think other Californians will understand. Am I wrong? Please understand that the article which is about a car has been covered over with what I gather North Americans call Cruft. Sometime it is clear you do not understand what you are doing. I will go back over it when you are finished. Eddaido (talk) 23:38, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
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Archiving active links
Please stop removing these. The option was put in the tool for a reason. I've had to deal with too many links that became dead - one I had put in, and I didn't archive it because I didn't know how to do it then, and now it's gone forever. Even tbe owner of the small site where it was doesn't have it, I asked. Sure, most of the archiving is never going to be used and it makes the file very slightly bigger. But the payoff sometimes is enormous. So please leave them alone. Thank you, deisenbe (talk) 21:52, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Deisenbe: I've given a detailed response at Talk:John Brown (abolitionist). That post mentioned but didn't emphasize that creating archive links doesn't create the archive, as you may be thinking here. It's not like making backups. As for what you "lost", were those irreplaceable documents relating to Wikipedia? And how can you be sure, with all the backing up by various systems and users making their own private copies, that such material is "gone forever"? Dhtwiki (talk) 19:47, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
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John Brown (abolitionist) hatnotes
Hi,
The reasoning behind the edits you corrected here is that these aren't "hatnotes" in that they're invisible. Stacking visible and invisible templates side-by-side has a nasty habit of introducing excessive whitespace if one is not careful. Furthermore, neither of these templates really impacts article editors; one just adds a non-mandatory lock notice, and the other is primarily for the sake of bots which wouldn't be able to readily divine the correct English variant from a skim of the subject. There's no real strong consensus either way as to where these go, but I do habitually get them out of the way of the lead as the more curly-bracket junk at the top of articles the more difficult it is for inexperienced editors to dive in. I'm not reverting but wanted to give you a heads-up. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 15:22, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Thumperward and Dhtwiki, please see MOS:ORDER, where there is a confusing note saying that "English variety and date style" templates can go at the top or the bottom. I suppose this means that they should not be moved from one place to the other unless there is consensus at an article or project level. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:40, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
- Rather than wasting our time on an entirely civil discussion about actual policy, why not cluebat Attic Salt (talk · contribs) for obvious MOS violations? Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 21:41, 22 September 2020 (UTC)