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January 2018 GOCE barnstars[edit]

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This barnstar is awarded to Dhtwiki for copy edits totaling over 12,000 words (including bonus and rollover words) during the GOCE January 2018 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Tdslk (talk) 04:41, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

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advice needed[edit]

Hi, you took off comments I made about a steampunk book citing lack of source. i'm new here tbh and don't know how to add a source. Can you offer simple explanation? Many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emrysambrosius (talkcontribs) 17:43, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

I'm looking for, say, a review of the book (if that is what you tried to add) that describes it as "steampunk". You could look at the raw markup of other entries in that section, to see how sources are cited. You could put a crude citation between reference tags and I can put it in more finished form. I'm just looking for something other than your own opinion. Dhtwiki (talk) 18:36, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

February 2018 blitz bling[edit]

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This barnstar is awarded to Dhtwiki for copy edits totaling over 6,000 words (including rollover words) during the GOCE February 2018 Copy Editing Blitz. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Miniapolis 17:05, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

Nodar Kumaritashvili[edit]

Just want to say thanks for all your work on the article to get it to FA status. Without your constant edits, I don't think it would have happened this time. Truly appreciate it. Kaiser matias (talk) 23:32, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

GOCE February 2018 news[edit]

Guild of Copy Editors February 2018 News
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Welcome to the February 2018 GOCE newsletter in which you will find Guild updates since the December edition. We got to a great start for the year, holding the backlog at nine months. 100 requests were submitted in the first 6 weeks of the year and were swiftly handled with an average completion time of 9 days.

Coordinator elections: In December, coordinators for the first half of 2018 were elected. Jonesey95 remained as lead coordinator and Corrine, Miniapolis and Tdslk as assistant coordinators. Keira1996 stepped down as assistant coordinator and was replaced by Reidgreg. Thanks to all who participated!

End of year reports were prepared for 2016 and 2017, providing a detailed look at the Guild's long-term progress.

January drive: We set out to remove April, May, and June 2017 from our backlog and all December 2017 Requests (a total of 275 articles). As with previous years, the January drive was an outstanding success and by the end of the month all but 57 of these articles were cleared. Officially, of the 38 who signed up, 21 editors recorded 259 copy edits (490,256 words).

February blitz: This one-week copy-editing blitz ran from 11 through 17 February, focusing on Requests and the last articles tagged in May 2017. At the end of the week there were only 14 pending requests, with none older than 20 days. Of the 11 who signed up, 10 editors completed 35 copy edits (98,538 words).

Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators: Jonesey95, Miniapolis, Corinne, Tdslk, and Reidgreg.

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Smith & Wesson model 29[edit]

Hi there, I just modified your edit of mine at Dirty Harry. One para that you thought deleted was not, so then it appeared twice! For the material on the revolver, the reference given was not accessible, but I found a reference for the same subject in the Smith & Wesson model 29 article and substituted that. Much of the rest had nothing to do with the film and so was WP:OFFTOPIC. I hope we can agree on this. I've been editing on WP for a long as you, though under a different name for most of that time; us senior editors ought to be able to get along. Sweetpool50 (talk) 11:43, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

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Indianapolis[edit]

all the information I cited comes from interviews with Stephen Spielberg himself so cannot be argued with, as for relevance on this page, I just thought it was nice to have some back story about such as significant speech in movie history. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MilfordBoy1991 (talkcontribs) 10:05, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

MilfordBoy1991, I meant for you to discuss this on the article talk page, and to get consensus there. What you're adding is suitable for the film, where it is already, apparently well sourced. Part of the problem at the ship article is that your account cites no source, as well as that it's possibly too much detail. Also, please sign your posts with tildes. Dhtwiki (talk) 00:41, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

March 2018 drive bling[edit]

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This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to Dhtwiki for copyediting 3 long articles during the GOCE March 2018 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Miniapolis 19:24, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
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This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to Dhtwiki for copyediting one of the five longest articles – 13,953 words – during the GOCE March 2018 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Miniapolis 19:24, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
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This barnstar is awarded to Dhtwiki for copy edits totaling over 40,000 words (including bonus and rollover words) during the GOCE March 2018 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Miniapolis 19:24, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Retina[edit]

Hi User:Dhtwiki. Thanks very much for making the effort to copyedit Dhtwiki. I just wanted to mention: I have a good understanding of both the clinically-relevant but also technical aspects of the retina, so please feel free to message me if you want my opinion on anything. If I may, I'd like to offer this suggestion:

  • The most important function of the retina is it's ability to convert light from our environment into an electrical signal for processing in our brain. I think it's important to really focus on this in opening line of the article, rather than "The retina (from Latin rēte, meaning "net") is the innermost, light-sensitive coat, tunic, or layer of shell tissue of the eye of most vertebrates and some molluscs, tissue that also consists of the uvea and fibrous tunic.". Most of the information in this sentence will be completely unhelpful for readers trying to develop the most basic and fundamental understanding of the topic. If I were learning about the Retina for the first time, the concepts of "coat", "tunic", "shell tissue", "molluscs", "uvea" and "fibrous tunic" would be very distracting and quite unrelated to what I'm trying to learn. I would principally focus on what key function the retina serves, from the outset.

Thank you again for your excellent work. You have significantly more experience copy editing than me so you're very welcome to disagree and disregard with my comments above about the opening line.

Thank you, Jkokavec (talk) 03:22, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

@Jkokavec: I've just streamlined the lead paragraph to accommodate your suggestions. I've retained "coat" (placed in quotation marks) because it's a technical term often used and its appropriateness here wasn't readily apparent to me. I think it's important to recognize the the retina is common to a certain large set of other animals and that we're not just talking about the human eye, but that this structure isn't found in all other animals. I did, however, remove much of what you found irrelevant. I also placed a couple of "clarification needed" templates, to be addressed by you, or anyone else with expertise, or myself, if I have the time to research what exactly is meant. I will plan to use those templates more liberally now and you should feel free to address the issues raised before my copy-editing is done. Dhtwiki (talk) 01:02, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

April 2018 blitz bling[edit]

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This barnstar is awarded to Dhtwiki for copy edits totaling over 6,000 words (including rollover words) during the GOCE April 2018 Copy Editing Blitz. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Miniapolis 15:45, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

LBJ Infobox Picture[edit]

Dhtwiki Hi, I saw you removed the infobox picture I added to Lyndon B. Johnson on the grounds that the image was "overexposed". Would you mind elaborating on this? I wanted to hear your thoughts before making my case on the talk page. Thanks! Emiya1980 (talk) 01:41, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

@Emiya1980: LBJ's left cheek and ear seem more washed out (i.e. overexposed) in the photo you put up, but just slightly so. However, there was also the fact that you'd already been reverted and merely put the image back up. It's time to discuss, if you want to change the image. Personally, I see no reason to prefer your photo over what's already there. Dhtwiki (talk) 03:42, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Precious[edit]

copy-editing

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Thank you for quality articles such as Bocage Plantation, for expert copy-editing with notes, for improving articles substantially, such as Arnold J. Toynbee and Construction of Rockefeller Center, with clear edit summaries, for service from 2009, for missing, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:54, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Warring Edit and Pob3qu3 have used constantly hoax in mexico articles[edit]

Greetings I know that a warring edit is being developed, but the problem is that it is not only my part, since the user Pob3qu3 involved does not want to argue, the user does not want to prove the veracity of their sources, generating hoax and so I can Seeing you are on the side of him and want to keep the edition to his preference, the user Pob3qu3 that you defend so much has received many calls for attention but still does not care and does not like to reach agreements except his own opinion and Pob3qu3 only cares about vandalizing all articles that have to do with mexico. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ignorantes22 (talkcontribs) 19:15, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

I just left a reply on your talk page. Let's continue the discussion there if you want. Dhtwiki (talk) 19:20, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

Earth[edit]

The access date parameter is not required for books. Dawnseeker2000 01:51, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

That page doesn't say anything about access-date parameters being unnecessary, it just implies they're not typically included; and there's nothing suggesting it's proper to remove those already there. Those cites all had links and the page tells how the parameter is helpful in locating the right archive snapshot if that's necessary. I find access-dates useful in determining how recently I created or checked a citation, even if there's no link rot to undo. Dhtwiki (talk) 04:41, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
OK, sounds fine. Citation bot removes the access date parameter under certain conditions from cite book and cite journal. Dawnseeker2000 05:30, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
I'm assuming that means it's OK to revert your revert. I think citation, or some other, bot removes acess-date parameters when there is a DOI parameter present in a citation of a periodical. That's the only policy of automatic removal I'm aware of. Dhtwiki (talk) 05:50, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
I didn't revert you and come here to explain myself only to be reverted. :| Dawnseeker2000 06:29, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
You haven't given a rationale for removing those access-date parameters, or, rather, the article you linked to doesn't support removal. Why shouldn't they be restored? You seemed to be using AWB. Did that have anything to do with removing the parameters automatically? Dhtwiki (talk) 07:31, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

St. George's School[edit]

Thank you. I was going to correct the article but I realized that I didn't know whether the third floor of Old School is still dorm space. I graduated almost 40 years ago. Best, JTRH (talk) 20:53, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thanks for your excellent work on articles, such as the United States article! EggRoll97 (talk) 03:56, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

Whats wrong...[edit]

...with had been? --Saqib (talk) 07:57, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

If you say "...a Pakistani politician who had been a member of the National Assembly of Pakistan from June 2013 to May 2018", you are saying he no longer was a member during that time, when what you are obviously wanting to say is that that was his term as a member. "Had been" is "past perfect" tense, where the action has been completed by the time mentioned in the sentence. Dhtwiki (talk) 20:24, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

May 2018 GOCE drive bling[edit]

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This barnstar is awarded to Dhtwiki for copy edits totaling over 30,000 words (including bonus and rollover words) during the GOCE May 2018 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Reidgreg (talk) 17:07, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
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This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to Dhtwiki for copyediting 11 articles during the GOCE May 2018 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Reidgreg (talk) 17:07, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
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This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to Dhtwiki for copyediting 21,835 total words during the GOCE May 2018 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Reidgreg (talk) 17:07, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
Goce silver barnstar.png Guild of Copy Editors Leaderboard Award: Long Articles, 4th Place
This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to Dhtwiki for copyediting two long articles during the GOCE May 2018 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Reidgreg (talk) 17:07, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
Goce silver barnstar.png Guild of Copy Editors Leaderboard Award: Old Articles, 4th Place
This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to Dhtwiki for copyediting 11 old articles during the GOCE May 2018 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Reidgreg (talk) 17:07, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
Goce silver barnstar.png Guild of Copy Editors Leaderboard Award: Longest Article, 2nd Place
This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to Dhtwiki for copyediting one of the five longest articles – 11,133 words – during the GOCE May 2018 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Reidgreg (talk) 17:07, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

A well-deserved five leaderboard awards! Thanks for helping to bring the copy edit backlog to a new all-time low! – Reidgreg (talk) 17:07, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

June 2018 GOCE newsletter[edit]

Guild of Copy Editors June 2018 News
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Welcome to the June 2018 GOCE newsletter, in which you will find Guild updates since the February edition. Progress continues to be made on the copyediting backlog, which has been reduced to 7 months and reached a new all-time low. Requests continue to be handled efficiently this year, with 272 completed by the end of May (an average completion time of 10.5 days). Fewer than 10% of these waited longer than 20 days, and the longest wait time was 29 days.

Wikipedia in general, and the Guild in particular, experienced a deep loss with the death on 20 March of Corinne. Corinne (a GOCE coordinator since 1 July 2016) was a tireless aide on the requests page, and her peerless copyediting is a part of innumerable GAs and FAs. Her good cheer, courtesy and tact are very much missed.

March drive: The goal was to remove June, July and August 2017 from our backlog and all February 2018 Requests (a total of 219 articles). This drive was an outstanding success, and by the end of the month all but eight of these articles were cleared. Of the 33 editors who signed up, 19 recorded 277 copy edits (425,758 words).

April blitz: This one-week copy-editing blitz ran from 15 through 21 April, focusing on Requests and the last eight articles tagged in August 2017. At the end of the week there were only 17 pending requests, with none older than 17 days. Of the nine editors who signed up, eight editors completed 22 copy edits (62,412 words).

May drive: We set out to remove September, October and November 2017 from our backlog and all April 2018 Requests (a total of 298 articles). There was great success this month with the backlog more than halved from 1,449 articles at the beginning of the month to a record low of 716 articles. Officially, of the 20 who signed up, 15 editors recorded 151 copy edits (248,813 words).

Coordinator elections: It's election time again. Nominations for Guild coordinators (who will serve a six-month term for the second half of 2018) have begun, and will close at 23:59 UTC on 15 June. All Wikipedia editors in good standing are eligible, and self-nominations are encouraged. Voting will take place between 00:01 UTC on 16 June and 23:59 UTC on 30 June.

June blitz: Stay tuned for this one-week copy-editing blitz, which will take place in mid-June.

Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators: Corinne, Jonesey95, Miniapolis, Reidgreg and Tdslk.

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Great editor[edit]

Just wanted to say good job on your recent edits! Quite happy with them and how they improved the article. Mikecurry1 (talk) 21:19, 16 June 2018 (UTC) Cheers

Request for copy editing[edit]

I need you to make copy edits to the articles WBKO and WNKY. Issues include overlinking, redundant info, paragraph length, etc. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 00:41, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

@Mvcg66b3r: I see that they've been marked as needing copy editing via the standard "copy edit" template. That means they're on the backlog, where copy editors are just now trying to finish up October 2017, if I'm not mistaken. Individual copy editors don't usually take requests for individual articles. Dhtwiki (talk) 00:55, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

June 2018 GOCE Blitz bling[edit]

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This barnstar is awarded to Dhtwiki for copy edits totaling over 10,000 words (including rollover words) during the GOCE June 2018 Copy Editing Blitz. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Reidgreg (talk) 12:19, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
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This barnstar is awarded to Dhtwiki for copy-editing at least one individual article of more than 10,000 words during the most recent Guild of Copy Editors' Drive or Blitz. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Reidgreg (talk) 12:19, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Nice 10k! – Reidgreg (talk) 12:19, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Spartacus good faith edit[edit]

I see that you reverted my proposed edit to the Spartacus (film) page. I know this is trivial nerdiness on my part, but I'd like to point out that the story of John F. Kennedy going to see Spartacus at a Washington DC theater is detailed in Paul B. Fay, Jr.'s memoir "The Pleasure of His Company" (1966). In his telling, Fay makes it clear that JFK is already President when this happens, and there's no indication that JFK had already seen this film as President-elect. There's also the issue of the NY Times dateline: February 1961. (Also, I find it hard to believe that JFK would cross an American Legion picket line in 1960 or '61, but I have no evidence one way or the other.)


Joseph Angier

7/01/2018 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joeangier (talkcontribs) 17:39, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

@Joeangier: That text talks of JFK's going to see the film having political significance (i.e. crossing the picket line) which the Times ref. doesn't mention (but the FIU ref. does, IIRC, while describing JFK as president-elect). Unless you can find a source that pinpoints this better or are able to discredit the FIU ref as a source, I just don't think we have enough to change the description of JFK to "president", rather than p.-elect. The Times story seems to be pointing out what a "just folks" sort of man Kennedy was in wanting to go out to see a movie with some pals. Why wouldn't the paper mention the significance of crossing picket lines if that actually happened when he was president (although, it's possibly more likely he'd do such a thing once ensconced in power)? Dhtwiki (talk) 20:56, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

WLA[edit]

Hello, in my edit of WLA or White Latin Americans, I only added another source for Mexico and Paraguay, I dont know why is necesary revert them, I explained also my edits in the bar of "submit". Thanks for understard. Good Day. --Nance 47 (talk) 00:20, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

@Nance 47: Another editor has been reverting your edits. As the initiator of change, per WP:BRD you should discuss your concerns on the article talk page. Dhtwiki (talk) 00:30, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

OK, Thanks. --Nance 47 (talk) 00:46, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks/good catch on the Buckley[edit]

Totally missed that mention before where I made the change. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.224.73.84 (talk) 23:03, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

July 2018 GOCE Drive bling[edit]

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This barnstar is awarded to Dhtwiki for copy edits totaling over 20,000 words (including bonus and rollover words) during the GOCE July 2018 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Reidgreg (talk) 23:08, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
Goce silver barnstar.png Guild of Copy Editors Leaderboard Award: Old Articles, 5th Place
This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to Dhtwiki for copyediting seven old articles during the GOCE July 2018 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Reidgreg (talk) 23:08, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

August GOCE newsletter[edit]

Guild of Copy Editors August 2018 Newsletter
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Hello and welcome to the August 2018 GOCE newsletter. Thanks to everyone who participated in the Guild's June election; your new and returning coordinators are listed below. The next election will occur in December 2018; all Wikipedia editors in good standing may take part.

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Our June blitz focused on Requests and articles tagged for copy edit in October 2017. Of the eleven people who signed up, eight editors recorded a total of 28 copy edits, including 3 articles of more than 10,000 words. Complete results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

Thanks to everyone who participated in the July drive. Of the seventeen people who signed up, thirteen editors completed 194 copy edits, successfully removing all articles tagged in the last three months of 2017. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are here.

The August blitz will run for one week, from 19 to 25 August. Sign up now!

Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators, Reidgreg, Baffle gab1978, Jonesey95, Miniapolis and Tdslk.

To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

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Divine Revert[edit]

Hello,

I believe this is the commentary that I referred to. I don't know what else to say besides in the commentary Waters says that he could not believe he was able to convince Divine to say her legal name on camera. It's a rather obscure piece of cinema history. He says the referred quip between deleted scenes.

Link: http://www.ratethatcommentary.com/detail.php/318

Dondu Muffin (talk) 00:25, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

@Dondu Muffin: I just undid my revert and supplied the reference. I further copy edited for conciseness. Note that the article employs the male pronoun when referring to Divine. Dhtwiki (talk) 01:39, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
@Dhtwiki: Thank you! Dondu Muffin (talk) 12:47, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

August 2018 GOCE blitz bling[edit]

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This barnstar is awarded to Dhtwiki for copy edits totaling over 6,000 words (including rollover words) during the GOCE August 2018 Copy Editing Blitz. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Reidgreg (talk) 21:56, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

Sorry I made an edit to GOCE-d article "Elementary comparison testing"[edit]

Hi! Just wanted to apologize for having mistakenly made a (minor) edit to Elementary comparison testing while under GOCE. I reverted it right away once I noticed the banner. I apologize!

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@Commevsp: Thank you for your message and your concern. The template I have up is often ignored; it's mainly there to warn other copy editors, so there aren't two or more copy editing the same article. If you see something you want to change, I think you can go ahead. It's just that I might want to change it myself. Dhtwiki (talk) 01:03, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Capitol[edit]

Stating the word "capitol" is pointless. No caption is really needed. WP:ASTONISHME. IWI (chat) 23:36, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

@ImprovedWikiImprovment: I think your approach is too minimalist. It isn't obvious that it's the west front and then you should say of what. That image has had a caption for some time and many, if not most, infobox images do. Dhtwiki (talk) 23:42, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
Mentioning the term "Capitol" is pointless and west view has little if any. Many buildings don't have captions if you look (Empire State Building, Chrysler Building etc.) and in the ones that do, a description is neccessery. IWI (chat) 00:22, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
Neither of the policies you mentioned in your edit summaries forbids a caption, and even at Wikipedia:Principle of Some Astonishment, where one editor has contributed 90% of the text, there is the example of "Southwesterly view" being left in the image of the pentagon. I'm going to revert to the last consensus choice, before my attempt to make it brief, and let you gain consensus on the talk page for your proposed change. Dhtwiki (talk) 00:36, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
All you really need to do is omit the word “capitol”. IWI (chat) 01:04, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
Saying "west front" is important, especially as the two following modern photos are of the east front; and the two aspects are similar from a distance. Dhtwiki (talk) 01:47, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

September 2018 drive bling[edit]

Goce silver barnstar.png Guild of Copy Editors Leaderboard Award: Long Articles, 3rd Place
This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to Dhtwiki for copyediting 1 long article during the GOCE September 2018 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Miniapolis 20:00, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
Goce silver barnstar.png Guild of Copy Editors Leaderboard Award: Longest Article, 5th Place
This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to Dhtwiki for copyediting one of the five longest articles – 6,141 words – during the GOCE September 2018 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Miniapolis 20:00, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
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This barnstar is awarded to Dhtwiki for copy edits totaling over 30,000 words (including bonus and rollover words) during the GOCE September 2018 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Miniapolis 20:00, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your help on WT:GOCE/COORD back in August as well. All the best, Miniapolis 20:00, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

October 2018 GOCE blitz bling[edit]

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This barnstar is awarded to Dhtwiki for copy edits totaling over 2,000 words (including rollover words) during the GOCE October 2018 Copy Editing Blitz. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Reidgreg (talk) 19:49, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Archive links[edit]

According to WP:CEFC, "The content of any webpage may alter of course, and may in time disappear completely. In any case where a webpage is referred to from an article, where it may be subject to future change or removal, the specification of an alternate archive URL will ensure link accessibility and stability. When referenced content can be retrieved from an archive source such as the Internet Archive or WebCite then archive information can be included along with the original reference information. Anticipating the possibility of future alteration or deletion, archive URL information can thus be added pre-emptively, at the time of a reference's initial inclusion and ahead of any potential issues with the original link."

Would you rather add a bunch of archive links now (I'm still curious as to how this is detrimental) or would you rather wait five years and hope everyone who added web links to their citations remembered to archive them before some of them inevitably break? Runawayangel (talk) 20:40, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

Obvious captions on planet articles[edit]

I’m sorry but you are just wrong. The lead image at the top of the infoboxes will obviously be of said planet. See rule 1 of good caption criteria. IWI (chat) 01:09, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

The rule states “clearly identifies the subject of the picture, without detailing the obvious“ IWI (chat) 01:14, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
@ImprovedWikiImprovment: You're completely taking out the identification of the subject in the caption, leaving for others to infer it. Plus, you're continuing a practice that I've encountered, and contested, on several articles. You think you know how the captions should be, but you're not asking, and gaining consensus, on article talk pages when you meet with such edits being contested. Dhtwiki (talk) 21:15, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

───────────────────────── The essay WP:ASTONISHME gives similar examples; the subject of the picture is obvious. It’s not like a picture of some other planet will be at the top of the infobox with the word “Jupiter” directly above. IWI (chat) 21:42, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

If I remember correctly, that essay makes some comment about the subject of a picture of the Pentagon being obvious, because the name denotes the shape, which is obvious in the picture; but that's asking a lot to assume people have such good technical vocabularies. In any case, that essay doesn't have the weight of policy, and if a caption states the obvious too much for your liking, it might not do so for others. If it's a featured article, as several (all?) of the planet articles are, you might think that careful consideration has been given to image captions by experienced editors. Dhtwiki (talk) 21:55, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
No it’s not referencing the shape but the fact that you wouldn’t put a picture of another building in the article so the reader knows that this picture of a building is the one the article is about. Of course you are right; it is only an essay but the main premise is that there is no need to reference the name considering you wouldn’t have a picture of some other planet in the lead of the article. You would literally have to be 6 months old to not work out what the picture is of. It’s not like if we remove the caption people are going to be like “oh what planet is that at the top of the Jupiter article; gee they should have told us that in the caption” (at least acknowledge that). We get a perfect caption not when there is no more to add but when there is no more to take away (i.e. consise) IWI (chat) 01:11, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
Just because it’s a featured article does not mean there is no room for improvement. That’s not a reason and you still haven’t given a valid point really. I mean we don’t need to tell people the subject of the picture if it’s right there in front of them. IWI (chat) 01:37, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Acessdate[edit]

hey no access dates in any ref from number 124 to number 128 – five in all n Michael Jackson videography can you pls help me to fix that. Thankyou. Akhiljaxxn (talk) 01:50, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

@Akhiljaxxn: I always put in access dates when applicable (when the reference is available online), when I create references; but they are not all that important. If you want to add them, just add |access-date=<date> to the citation template (usually at the end). That is after you've checked the reference for viability (not a dead link) and suitability (that it supports the article text), which is what an access date implies has been done. Dhtwiki (talk) 02:31, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

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