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Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/NovelsInCompleteInfobox

Hi, as lots of work has been done of working through this list, would you be able to do that in the next day or two. Thanks :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 16:27, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

just the reminder again :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 16:50, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

little guide

hey ho. regarding today's conversation, after dinner i made this little rough guide on linkspam. love any additions (esp. policy citing and wording) or comments on its talkpage. i'm also going to pass it to Danny and Anthere for use/info soon. cheers! JoeSmack ^Talk 09:03, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

An article you deleted...

..is under discussion at Wikipedia:New contributors' help page#Lost Page. Can you kindly remark on it? — Lost^(talk) 09:20, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Your RfA question

Hello Eagle 101, I responded to your question about spam issues on Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Shirahadasha. I appreciate your inquiry. Thanks, --Shirahadasha 01:00, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

I added more material to the response better addressing the part of your question about the issues involved in using links to youtube, myspace, etc. Thanks again for the inquiry. Best, --Shirahadasha 22:44, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Robert Kiyosaki

F.Y.I You warned User:66.185.164.2 not to add spam links and right after you warned him... he added them again. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.156.162.26 (talk • contribs) 01:13, January 4, 2007 (UTC)

Spam and my RfA

Hi, thanks for your question on my RfA; I would appreciate it if you review my response. I'd like to take the opportunity to thank you now for your comments on #wikipedia-spam, they helped me have a better understanding for a problem I am intellectually aware of but not really considered. Irrespective of how my RfA goes, you can expect to see me in that channel from time to time helping with that onerous task :)--Nilfanion (talk) 13:38, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

The Novels WikiProject Newsletter: Issue VII - December 2006

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Fly Fishing

Happy New Year Eagle....just wanted to let you know that I reverted back an article you changed Fly Fishing. I believe you thought there was vandalism but in actuality, I though, a well written contribution by Mike. Once again "Happy New Year". Shoessss 20:56, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

I reverted because I am and was patrolling for spam. Adding 4 links to website forums, seems to qualify to me as extra fluff that takes away from the quality of the article. I would advise that most if not all of those should be removed, per our guidelines on external links. If any of them are useful, please include them as citations, just remember to check and make sure that they are reliable sources. I am sorry that I had reverted the rest of an otherwise good edit. —— Eagle 101 ^{(Need help?)} 21:07, 4 January 2007 (UTC) Note this message is also on the talk page of Fly fishing

I did see your comments on Mike's page about the links....I'll go an clean them up. Just wanted to give you a heads up on what was going on. Shoessss 21:14, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Ok, no worries! and Cheers! —— Eagle 101 ^{(Need help?)} 21:17, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Your question on my RFA

Hey, thanks for you question about linkspam on my RFA. I just thought I'd let you know I'd submitted a response there. Cheers for your interest in my RFA! Budgiekiller 21:56, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Stacks77 Reverts

Please help me understand why you've reverted my edits and additions to External Links on Wiki entries dealing with CNBC.com. I've read the External Links Wiki Policies and see nothing that that I'm in violation of.

For example: You reverted an edit I made on this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Caruso-Cabrera - The first entry in "Sources" (CNBC profile: [1]) directs the user to http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/CNBCTV/AnchorsAndReporters/P1342.asp which no longer has anything to do with CNBC and redirects to a page that has nothing to do with the topic (CNBC has completely seperated itself from http://moneycentral.msn.com as noted in this article: http://www.bizreport.com/2006/12/cnbc_to_re-launch_its_website_ending_relations_with_msn_money.html).

I fixed the above issue by adding an "External Links" section and added the correct location for the Michelle_Caruso-Cabrera bio here: http://www.cnbc.com/id/15838214/

Please let me know why you've done this. I've spent a lot of time helping with Wiki and feel like this is totally un-called for. Please advise.

Mmm, if that is the case, then remove the old link, and replace it with the new link and it should all be good. I am sorry if I made an error. If you are just changing one outdated link for another, please don't let me get in the way. —— Eagle 101 ^{(Need help?)} 22:04, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Stacks77 22:11, 4 January 2007 (UTC) Ok, thanks. But I'm also adding useful External Links that make perfect sense. Now that CNBC is no longer affiliated with MSN Money, there are new pages under CNBC.com for every show, anchor, etc that can and should be linked to (I would think?)...For example:

You've reverted this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Big_Idea_with_Donny_Deutsch

I simply added this link:The Big Idea with Donny Deutsch - CNBC.com http://www.cnbc.com/id/15838512/site/14081545/ This is the official homepage on CNBC.com for that show...

What should I do?

Be careful with excessive External links. Make sure that they really belong there before adding them. It may be best to use the links as citations. Just make sure that they are Reliable sources. So, I would argue against the external links section, and instead do proper citations. If you need help doing the citations, I would be glad to show you how. Cheers —— Eagle 101 ^{(Need help?)} 22:15, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

But is what I'm doing adding "excessive links"? For example, here is something I did, that you haven't reverted. I simply added "External Links" to this page, providing a link to the official Fast Money home at CNBC.com, which wasn't there before:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_Money_%28CNBC%29

Is this incorrect? Should it have been a citation? I thought citations were meant for the person who actually wrote the article, citing sources? Stacks77 22:22, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

You can always use citations. Most of our articles are in need of citations. Just because you are not the original author, does not mean you can't do citations. Citations where there are none, would vastly help wikipedia more then a simple external links section. Again if you want me to help you out with some citations, feel free to ask. —— Eagle 101 ^{(Need help?)} 22:27, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Ok, can you show me how to properly do a citation here?: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_Money_%28CNBC%29

Again, I've added the "External Links" section to this page, and added the link to http://www.cnbc.com/id/15838499/site/14081545/ , the official page on CNBC.com.

Could you edit that Fast Money Wiki page so I can get a grasp on how to do it correctly moving forward? My goal was to clean all the CNBC related Wiki pages up, since they just re-launched the site, and moved from MSN Money.Stacks77 22:45, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Why are you removing reference sources?

You say, "Please do not add inappropriate external links to Wikipedia." I have been linking largely unsourced articles to their entries at the Japanese Film Database (JMDB). These articles are regularly brought up for AfD because of poor sourcing, yet you have removed all of these references. Since when are links to a filmography in an article about actress considered inappropriate? You say, "Inappropriate links include (but are not limited to) links to personal web sites, links to web sites with which you are affiliated, and links that exist to attract visitors to a web site or promote a product." These links fall under none of these categories. So why did you remove them? Are you also removing IMDB links at articles on American actors? Because this is the Japanese equivalent. Dekkappai 22:36, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Mmmm that would be my error. I am sorry, I saw a bunch of links being added, and that threw a red flag in my mind. I will revert myself. I am sorry. —— Eagle 101 ^{(Need help?)} 22:47, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

No problem, Eagle. You startled me a little there, though. I thought I was doing good work digging through a good Japanese filmography source, and next time I log on, I see I've been reverted and gotten my hand slapped... No hard feelings. Thanks for cleaning up the reverts. Now I'll forge ahead. Dekkappai 23:04, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

GMT Records AfD

Hi there! Just a quick note to let you know that your AfD nomination is incomplete - if you gave any reasons for listing the article, they didn't make it through to the debate. It's probably a good idea for you to edit this and add your reasons. Tevildo 00:01, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, sorry about that! :S I fixed it! :D —— Eagle 101 ^{(Need help?)} 05:16, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Deleted Link

Why did you delete my addition of a link to a relevant source of material? The site to which I linked is entirely relevant to the subject matter, and has value to add to the article. Please review. user - milomind —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Milomind (talk • contribs) 04:07, January 5, 2007 (UTC)

Would you please show me which article it was in? I can't help you without that much information. —— Eagle 101 ^{(Need help?)} 04:24, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

A good start would be Wikipedia is not a mere directory of links nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Inappropriate links include (but are not limited to) links to personal web sites, links to web sites with which you are affiliated, and links that exist to attract visitors to a web site or promote a product. See the external links guideline and spam policies for further explanations of links that are considered appropriate. If you feel the link should be added to the article, then please discuss it on the article's talk page rather than re-adding it. See the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you., which was given to you by User:JoeSmack. Cheers! —— Eagle 101 ^{(Need help?)} 04:27, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Fr Byles considered promotional advertising?

I'm a little confused about a message from Eagle 101 telling me that I'm putting "advertising or promotional stuff" on my last edits. I have been adding information about passenger Thomas Byles to the RMS Titanic page. Since when is adding information about a famous passenger who hadn't been mentioned supposed to be promotional stuff? I just happened to notice Byles hadn't been mentioned. And by the way, I'm not a new contributor, I just don't contribute a lot. -- Scholastica547

I saw that you took out the POV and bunch of other things on the above item, rather than just taking out the link. Your comments did not jive with your actions, it will be appreciated if you would spend a few minutes before wiping out whole paragraphs. I am sure Wikipedia policy does not allow for whole scale delitions by anyone —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.15.203.99 (talk • contribs) 05:11, January 5, 2007 (UTC)

I am sorry, I intended to revert only the link, I was patrolling for spam. That was my error, I have undone myself. I am sorry for messing that up. —— Eagle 101 ^{(Need help?)} 05:15, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Request for range block

you recently blocked 89.172.196.81 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log), and then another account which made the exact same edits. It would be a good idea to do an IP-range block. --Ybbor^T 22:48, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

EDIT:latest user is 89.172.197.56 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) [1]--Ybbor^T 22:49, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Spam??

Hi Eagle. Wikipedia states that external links can be a service to its readers, and should be kept to a minimum. The links I have been adding are not mend to be spam, but Thailand has 76 provinces and I have been adding a link on each province to a detailed map of that province, also with a postal stamp with a place of interest in that province and a provincial coat of arms... If you check the links you would see that the site linked to is not commercial. Links placed by myself are therefor just 'meritable, accessible and appropriate to the article', I would think. Please your reaction. As I would like to finish the job, but don't want to spam. So, if ok with you I would like to continue, but if considered otherwise by you (or others) feel free to take the links off again - as I do not want to be denied access or cause problems with anyone - although it would deprive many readers of the additional info retalet to the topic. Cheers. Tao. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 58.10.128.30 (talk • contribs) 06:00, January 6, 2007 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for bringing this up! I removed them as adding bare links to wikipedia is not as much a service as you would think. What would happen if every website similar to that one had a link on wikipedia? Would that not diminish the value of wikipedia's article? As the content of the page is primarily images, perhaps they could be uploaded to the wikipedia article proper. (As long as all of our image policy is followed). Just some thoughts. If I may ask, what was your reason for adding that link, and not another? This is just pure curiosity of mine, and I would appreciate a reply. Cheers! —— Eagle 101 ^{(Need help?)} 06:13, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

I live in Thailand. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 2007 58.10.128.29 (talk • contribs) 06:27, January 6, (UTC)

Ok, so that is why you picked this link and not any other? Interesting... may I inquire as to who owns the website? Also, what is the copyright status on those images? Public domain, or a free license? Cheers! and thanks for inquiring. —— Eagle 101 ^{(Need help?)} 06:33, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

There was an editing conflict so I lost my previous answer, but below you find my discussion with JoeSmack on the topic:

JoeSmack: There must be a more reliable place to find a detailed map of the province other than an online travel dictionary (not usually regarded as a reliable source as much as say a government site). Is there any other more reliable, verifiable source with this information you know of? JoeSmack Talk 06:04, 6 January 2007 (UTC) Not that I know of. Also, the links I had placed are to interactive maps whci can be changed into the Thai language - an intersting item as upcountry roadsign are often not in Latin script and could therefor be compared with the Thai script. Also: the site is listed number 7 out of 3,630,000 hits when you type 'thailand travel info' in Google and first out of 1,180,000 when you type in 'thailand travel dictionary' - so I don't think it needs to spam... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 58.10.128.29 (talk • contribs). If the images are what are important, can you upload them? I bet other articles would like to be able to use em, and I bet the website doesn't like wikipedia leeching their bandwidth... JoeSmack Talk 06:20, 6 January 2007 (UTC) Misunderstanding? I think if Thailand had had just three provinces the adding of the link wouldn't have been considered as Spam, but since it has 76 provinces and I was adding a link to each one of them the links are misinterpreted as spam. I don't know how to upload pictures, but besides of that the interactive use of the map would go lost, and that is a pitty.

Besides that the author is Yves Masure (as stated on each page). So, that's about it. May I know your final answer/decission so you/someone can put the links back on and I or someone else can continue with the rest or, if decided otherwise- we all can go on with other things. Cheers, Tao.

Personally I would not re-add them, with the google hits, what if the other 6 sites above that site wanted a link? How about the other 3,600,000? Best to stick to what is already there, then to invite that potential spam well. Cheers! —— Eagle 101 ^{(Need help?)} 08:00, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Links

Thx for keeping Wiki clean and informative. My links may have been removed, but they are for a historical site relavent to the communities I have posted on. It is non-commercial and simply a hobby project of railroad history. Thx! 216.23.21.93 23:25, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Have you read our external link guidelines? Cheers! —— Eagle 101 ^{(Need help?)} 23:28, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Concerning a page that I created

Hello Eagle, I appreciate your work in expuragating wikipedia and understand your reasoning for maintaining this great public database however, I do not believe that my article 'PLINY'S GRUS' in any way, shape, or form undermines the standard by which all wikipedia articles adhere, and would like to understand your reasoning behind deleting it. Maybe I am wrong in my reasoning, and it would be beneficial to me for future purpose in writing if you would describe to me what it is you disagree about so that I may plead otherwise or agree. Thank You, Crazylegs100. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 2007 69.19.14.17 (talk • contribs) January 6, (UTC)

Hey! No worries, I would love to look into it, if I only knew where to look. Can you elaborate on what article it was that I deleted? 'PLINY'S GRUS' does not exist, and never did exist. You can see this by looking at the deletion log. I can try to help you out if I knew where the article is. Cheers! —— Eagle 101 ^{(Need help?)} 23:46, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Fending off vandalism by 75.15.203.99

Thank you for your vigilance in dealing with vandalism by 75.15.203.99. The user at this IP address appears to be systematically vandalizing articles relating to minority Muslim sects or ethnic groups. The vandal adds untrue statements, distorts facts and spams the articles with links to web-sites that contain lies about the targeted groups. Your many reverts of today's mess are much appreciated! -- Aylahs ^(talk) 00:47, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Agha Khani. None of the statements I added were untrue. The Agha Khanis are a cult. The facts added are true so stop making up stuff. Under Wikipedia policy, the statments should not be taken out but rather discussed first, so I have asked for discussion and the cult members keep on taking out the facts. like user Aylahs, so is apparently a cult member who believes that Aga Khan is God on Earth, so I think before deleting what I wrote independent reserach should be done. Look forward to your answer —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 2007 75.15.204.215 (talk • contribs) 00:58, January 7, (UTC)

I don't doubt if what you added were true or not, that is up to fellow editors of the articles that you are editing. What I did do was revert the mass insertion of links into many articles. This is viewed as spam. I would highly suggest that you double check that the link you wanted to add meets our link guidelines. If it was indeed a good link, I would suggest using citations, using reliable sources, instead of using a bare external link. Sources help wikipedia more then bare links do. Cheers! —— Eagle 101 ^{(Need help?)} 02:16, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

what 'advertising or for promotional purposes'?

Please explain why you have pulled me up for advertising or for promotional purposes type of thing. I am only trying to be consistent that is why I was trying to put the Antwerp art school link in all relevant places. I have no link with this institution, I have never even been to belgium. Cutting edge fashion is under-represented / non-existent on wikipedia! 88.109.152.209 02:46, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

& WHAT 'inappropriate external links ' ?

88.109.152.209 02:51, 7 January 2007 (UTC)