Talk:All Dogs Go to Heaven 2

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I added the infobox to the article to give it more of a presentable look (also uploaded DVD cover). I also removed the very large summary, that appeared to be taken from somewhere else. I replaced it with one I wrote based on my knowladge of the movie, and several other sites with a synopsis of the movie. Feel free to change it around, but the original was just way too long, and I don't know who would want to read that.

I also added some formatting to the paragraphs, and added some bullet points to some of the lower sections.

As for the released date, I found two conflicting reports of the release date, but I just left the one that was in the article previously, if anyone can find the final information, please post it in here what it is, and update it accordingly. Lightdarkness 00:02, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Christmas Carol

Christmas Carol

All Dogs Go to Heaven Christmas Carol in britan is called an all dogs Christmas Carol should this be added?

Singing voice

According to IMDB, Charlie's singing voice is done by Jesse Corti, can anyone tell me if this is true? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.3.2.129 (talk) 19:25, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes, that is true. ;) CarrieOkie86 (talk) 13:54, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, I tried.

Apparently Wiki folk like to stick with info given out at the time of a movie/show's release by its company, even if that info is wrong. Fine by me! In this instance, Sasha is obviously not an Irish Setter, but whatever.

Ah. Thank you to whomever edited her breed with a little explanation--yes, regardless of what MGM may have said, Sasha looks like a Saluki and not like an Irish Setter. (Although it is more a matter of overall impression than of one or two individual things such as ear shapes or coat lengths, which can always vary, the correction & the reasons given ARE correct--everything about her design says Saluki.) CarrieOkie86 (talk) 02:23, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

I suppose it’s appropriate to leave the following brief explanation in the summary (even though it doesn’t affect the plot):

(There has been debate over Sasha's breed in the movie because of her Saluki-like physical appearance, but she is officially labeled as an Irish Setter by the company. An example of this intent being her purposefully designed reddish-brown coat and smaller stature.) 

That’s what it says at the moment. Still, I feel the need to elaborate on that here. First, whatever the official company sources’ reasons may have been for saying Irish Setter, Sasha LaFleur is very plainly a Saluki. (I only accept correct information, regardless of the source.) They may have had that intention when choosing a red-brown coat, but that doesn’t make her a Setter; Salukis come in her color (indeed, in a vast array of dog colors) and look far more like her. As for the “smaller stature” mention, I don’t see the point there at all. It happens that Sasha is a perfect size to be a Saluki (a breed that varies greatly in so many ways.) An average female of both breeds would probably be very similar in size/height--perhaps around 25”, possibly a few more or less. Many female Salukis are quite small. So if the author of the above comments sees her as having a “smaller stature” in comparison to something unspecified, well, it has nothing to do with the filmmaker’s intentions regarding her breed. Sorry for being a bit long-winded, but I wanted to clarify the “debate.”BellatrixKidriver (talk) 15:08, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

I agree she looks like a Saluki, and while I have yet to find viable information supporting that the company actually said what breed she is, all of her appearances could easily point to an Irish Setter as well, it's called cartooning, it's not always going to look exactly like anything, Charlie doesn't look EXACTLY like a German Shepherd, Annabel doesn't look exactly like a whippet (note the GIGANTIC floof of hair). So, she's not CLEARLY anything with all the room there is for variation. Why not a mix? She's a "street dog", she could plainly be a variant of both. You and and the author to the quote above could both be correct in your arguments. I work as an illustrator, and have always been a die hard fan of animated movies especially All Dogs Go to Heaven, even if the 2nd one unfortunately contained no work of Don Bluth, and can appreciate the fact that influence can come from a variety of sources. While she easily looks like a Saluki, she could easily be an Irish Setter too, I see an influence of both in there judging by their appearance. Her design is not all that complicated either, pinching and pulling could have occured. Take a look at this:http://www.animalrentals.com/images/Poochies/IrishSetter.jpg. That could just as easily draw influence, just as a Saluki. I did some research more into any other encyclopedia entries other than wikipedia that contained information on this movie, and all of them indicated Sasha as an Irish Setter. http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/All-Dogs-Go-to-Heaven-2. I'm willing to see either view though, the breeds both carry similarities and differences that could have formed Sasha, and while I would like to tend to stick with the companies original breed intentions as being the true breed of Sasha (whatever breed that may be, Saluki or Irish Setter) I think it is very naive of you to automatically assume that Sasha is "very plainly a Saluki" or "Sasha looks like a Saluki, and not like an Irish Setter"Amber2916 (talk) 06:36, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

I understand you completely, and you make excellent points. First, the reason that all sources say Irish Setter is because that’s what the company said--it’s on the VHS/DVD cases, in the books that were released for the film, etc. Now, I’m not saying that they lied and did not base her design on that breed in any way. They may very well have never even heard of the Saluki! My point is simply that, in the end, they actually cartooned and adapted their way into a character bearing far more resemblance to an entirely different breeds than the one they started with and/or intended to draw. I think they would probably shrug and admit that if they knew or cared, but it really doesn’t matter at all. I simply think it’s something that might be of slight interest to fellow ADGTH fans, which is why I point it out. That’s all.

Second, you are absolutely right about cartoons! As a rabid fan of them, I’m extremely familiar with the stretching, exaggerating, changing, tweaking, and so forth that’s involved with character design, and with the fact that animated characters are never exact replicas of real things. They’re not supposed to be, thus the term ‘cartoon!’ What I meant is that, if you want to pick one breed to identify each character (which is what was basically happening, with the two names being changed back and forth), I cannot imagine saying that any breed is as much or more essentially like Sasha than the Saluki. Naturally, she or any character could be a mixed breed--with influence drawn from different animals. Again, I’m not saying that they didn’t use a Setter as a *basis*, and indeed that’s what they gave out to describe her; I merely think that she looks very little like one. It’s just that that always confused me a bit, and I had to guess that they probably wanted to provide a pretty well-known breed, knowing few people would bother questioning it or be able to identify anything closer.

I truly don’t mean to argue, that’s not my intent! Being a dog lover, I sometimes disagree with breed labels, but ultimately it’s all for fun. I don’t necessarily trust the “official source” every time; they also called Carface a Pit Bull, when he’s more of a Bulldog or a blend of those. I understand that most people prefer just to write whatever the movie companies originally said, regardless. I can appreciate this. It’s the simplest way, after all, and while I may not always exactly like it or believe it to be correct, it’s a way of simply reporting what was said in the past, without passing judgment on it. There are always spots such as this to make notes and newer observations about the info! So, while to me there’s truly no question here, hopefully we can be at an agreement now. :] BellatrixKidriver (talk) 15:44, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Mistake

Just recently watching the movie, I noticed a mistake in the scene Carface and Charlie first met on Earth. After Carface shows his collar, Charlie questions where he got it. In that scene, Charlie is wearing the magic red collar even though he's not even met Red yet. I don't know if it should be added or what but I'm just putting up what I know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.40.208.211 (talk) 01:20, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 11 May 2020

To put in some minor details about the plot and some more info on it’s home video releases. GordonFeetman (talk) 13:38, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

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And Gordon Freeman Dies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.126.55.92 (talk) 17:48, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 May 2020

gordon freeman dies Audielol (talk) 05:39, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. DannyS712 (talk) 06:19, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 May 2020

i would like to request that you add gordon feetmans death to this article for accuracy.

hugs & kisses, cherry graham 68.131.59.176 (talk) 06:39, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Naypta ☺ | ✉ talk page | 10:16, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Anymore people who put gordon feetman's death into wikipedia will have their post deleted

So apparently someone was still here to do the joke, I deleted their post, anymore people who want to put the joke in here, it's confirmed, the cast wants the joke to stop. It's over. --3nic5535 (talk) 21:26, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

hey

add back the gordon freeman plsssssajfajfjaufkahdiajfhsncjwisjwh — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2404:3C00:2160:FCF1:50EA:E35D:72C7:1803 (talk) 14:57, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

No. The joke is over, the cast has said not to, this is the entire reason this article is edit-protected until July 2021. If anyone else tries to edit Gordon Freeman's death into All Dogs Go To Heaven 2, I will personally get you.64.135.218.77 (talk) 22:05, 9 August 2020 (UTC) The Irate Gamer

Hey, what's been going on?

Just wanted to know. — comment added by ATPStorages (talk) 10:30, 28 August 2020 (UTC) you mean the whole Gordon Freeman thing? Oh yeah, There's this YouTube series called "half life vr but the ai is self aware" basically half life but in vr and the npcs are being controlled by another player. In one of the episodes, one of the characters makes a joke about adding Gordon's death on the wiki page for ADGTH2. when the episode came out, everyone flocked to the page to edit Gordon's death in. due to that, the page is protected until 2021. that's basically it in a nutshell. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thefreeencyclopediathatnoonewillevereditagain (talk • contribs) 15:50, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 August 2020

Oh help ME (talk) 23:45, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

gordan freeman dies

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. --Hammersoft (talk) 23:52, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Why

Why is everyone obsessed with Benrey editing Gordon Freeman dying in this article that they got the article protected for editing? It was funny, but it got ruined when even WayneRadioTV himself had to ask everyone to stop.

Iceflame248 (talk) 03:25, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

potential solution to the HLVRAI problem

Maybe we could all meet in the middle and end this madness by just saying that All Dogs go to Heaven 2 was mentioned in HLVRAI? 9/23/2020 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:A000:1709:20E2:55D0:D828:7B03:4FC6 (talk) 15:49, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Lots of things are mentioned in lots of other things. Usually, this is trivial and we ignore it. As a rule, if the mention is discussed in independent reliable sources, we might include it. If it isn't, we don't.

If someone is obsessed with adding it anyway, letting them add it is not "meeting in the middle", it's giving in to a disruptive editor. After repeatedly saying "no", we block them from editing. - SummerPhD^v2.0

Well, it's gotten to the point where it's bound to be edited in after the edit lock decays, so you'd might as well throw it into a little subheading? - User:Hawksbydesign —Preceding undated comment added 19:28, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Quick update, worked up a simple draft. You can view it Here. --Hawksbydesign (talk) 21:49, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

I salute the effort, but unless there's actual reliable source coverage of the fact that this article gets vandalised, it's just not suitable for inclusion. Many Wikipedia articles are regularly vandalised, we don't solve that by elaborately mentioning that fact in the article. If the article needs to be semi-protected indefinitely, it's really not a problem with a subject like this - significant new information about an old film isn't exactly coming out regularly. ~ mazca ^talk 11:38, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

good move

engineer tf2 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Engineer gaming tf2 gamer (talk • contribs) 07:10, 6 December 2020 (UTC)