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[[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]]&nbsp;<small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 21:53, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
[[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]]&nbsp;<small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 21:53, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

{{Reply to|GorillaWarfare}}Oh nice, thanks for the info boxes. I will look them over. I think I saw something like this elsewhere with other subjects. Do you know if there is one on Marxism? I will look for one but if there is and it is easily accessible to you it would be great if you could send it.

Also, I initially didn't think that Fox News article was really politics but when you reverted it I think for that reason I just thought it was fine if it was. I later noticed Fox News has three boxes and the green one stood out to me previously so I went ahead and used it. I looked into it though and realized the source isn't in the politics section of the site. If you look at the web address it puts the section of the site it is a part of. In bold you can see it:

https://www.foxnews.com/'''us'''/woman-arrested-for-spray-painting-over-anti-jihad-ny-subway-ad The "US" means it is part of the US News section I believe.

and when it is politics the web address would read like this:

https://www.foxnews.com/'''politics'''/biden-to-nominate-a-four-star-army-general-for-secretary-of-defense

Can I have your permission as a moderator to revert it?

Also, I found a CNN article that I don't have time to get to tonight but it basically says similar information that original The Blaze source said so that it could be sourced and say something similar to the original post (not the proposed post- like I said in the "talk" section on the Mona Eltahawy page, I didn't like that the proposal didn't put in context that even moderate Muslims had reason to misinterpret the sign due to events surrounding the time period and the fact that the proposal didn't mention the free speech issues - both of which I remember being mentioned in the CNN piece). I'll try to look it over later in the week.

[[User:GhostsOfGironde|GhostsOfGironde]] ([[User talk:GhostsOfGironde#top|talk]]) 03:51, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

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Welcome to my talk page! I work with facts and respect for genuine argument. I only ask the same of you. Please do not be disingenuous. I feel I have a moral obligation to note it. I know that that message only applies to a few and that most of the Talk will be productive. Can't wait! Please make a new section at the bottom of the page with the topic title that you wish to discuss!

Mona Eltahawy Override on Mistaken Understanding of "Criticism and Controversy" Section Edit

The title of this section was changed to reflect the topic of which it discusses rather than "November 2020" so that it accurately reflects what is being discussed. GhostsOfGironde (talk)

Information icon Welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate your contributions, but in one of your recent edits, it appears that you have added original research, which is against Wikipedia's policies. Original research refers to material—such as facts, allegations, ideas, and personal experiences—for which no reliable, published sources exist; it also encompasses combining published sources in a way to imply something that none of them explicitly say. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. You can have a look at the tutorial on citing sources. Thank you. –Roscelese (talkcontribs) 23:15, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Can you tell me which one's so I can check the mistake you are mentioning?

GhostsOfGironde (talk) 23:19, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I think I see it and know what your talking and understand what your saying but still will read the policy info you sent. I don't think you got my first message because I didn't ping you. Like I said, I will look into it. Could you let me know you got this so I know I pinged you correctly? Again, thanks for the info/links.

@Roscelese: GhostsOfGironde (talk) 23:46, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi GhostsOfGironde, the warning is with regard to your edit on Mona Eltahawy. You would need to provide third-party sources that attest controversy about her writing, not just cite the Eltahawy piece and claim that it was controversial - otherwise, this is original research. Our sourcing standards for biographies of living people are particularly strict. –Roscelese (talkcontribs) 01:22, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that is what I understood you to have been saying. Looks like the ping worked- thanks for the response.

GhostsOfGironde (talk) 01:59, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't see it as a warning at first but then was consolidating my talk page and realized that is what you called it later in post. I guess that is what it was...for a new Wikipedia user...rather than stating guidance - which is what I thought it was at first because of the use "we appreciate it". It was first appearing to a reasonable person as presented as help...People need to be kinder to newcomers when they are administrators that have been on Wikipedia for 15+ years. There are too many policy pages to read all of them and understand what the language in them specifically means without experience. And some of the time, interpretations by others are inaccurate in light of Arbitration Case decisions. You shouldn't have to have a "Wikipedia Policy Law Degree" prior to editing - at least that is what I think. Curious as to what others think. I'm not sure what the motive behind labeling that as a "warning" was. Since it was a warning...I'm now questioning the genuineness of the initial "we appreciate it". And who is "WE" that is spoken for?

GhostsOfGironde (talk) 04:21, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Talk page order

Please note that new posts to any talk page (user talk pages and article talk pages) should go at the bottom of the page, per WP:TPG. GorillaWarfare (talk) 16:32, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks.

GhostsOfGironde (talk) 20:03, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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