Template:Did you know nominations/SS Vernon

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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 02:37, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

SS Vernon

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Vernon

* ... that the wreck of the freighter Vernon (pictured) is one of the deadliest ever to have occurred in Wisconsin? Two Rivers monument honors lives lost in one of Wisconsin’s deadliest shipwrecks

- ALT1:... ~~that when the freighter Vernon (pictured) sank on Lake Michigan in 1887, only one person on board survived?~~ Just 1 survivor in 1887 shipwreck near Two Rivers

Reviewed: Bru McCoy
Comment: ~~Work in progress.~~ Article completed.

Created/expanded by GreatLakesShips (talk). Nominated by GreatLakesShips (talk) at 00:02, 28 December 2020 (UTC).

Under review. MB 21:12, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

New enough, long enough, well cited - no other policy issues. QPQ done. I tweaked the hook to make it flow better. The hook is good, cited in the article, and verified in the source. On second thought, the source that says it was "one of the deadliest" also says the death toll was 48 while other sources are as low as 36. Any idea if 36 would still put make "one of the deadliest", which I would interpret as in the top three. Can you find another source to back up the "deadliest" claim, like a list of Wisconsin shipwrecks. Otherwise, we should probably go with a different hook.
MB 21:43, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

@MB: The reason behind the discrepancy in the numbers is that the passenger manifests weren't accurately kept. Multiple numbers are given, anywhere between 36 and 50. Unfortunately, I am unable to find a source to back up the "deadliest" claim. As far as I can work out, there are only a handful of shipwrecks that are deadlier that the Vernon (e.g. SS Phoenix (1845), PS Niagara and SS Milwaukee). I don't know how much that counts, but if there is no source, I would definitely go for the ALT1 hook. GreatLakesShips (talk) 21:55, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Although the hook had a source, I think it needs a better source. It was "hookier" that ALT1, which is why I was trying to "salvage" (no pun intended) it. ALT1 doesn't flow very well either. I've modified it into ALT2 which states the same facts, and is stated in the article and source.

with ALT2. MB 22:14, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

ALT2:... that there was only one survivor in the 1887 sinking of the Vernon (pictured) on Lake Michigan?

@MB: Thanks very much. I have struck off the lead hook to help out the prep builder. GreatLakesShips (talk) 22:44, 2 January 2021 (UTC)