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Jackiey Budden

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She's a complete nobody. Other than being the mother of Jade Goody, a gameshow contestant, she is of little note. imho delete Jackiey_Budden and redirect it to the daughter.. AfD made by User:Trenwith.

  • Can I politely encourage you to play the ball and not the man? Yes, I wrote about Edwin Taylor. He is notable as a Member of Parliament (all Members of Parliament are considered notable). The question I asked myself was whether Jackiey Budden has done something which makes her notable. She is not notable merely for being the mother of a notable person. She is not notable for her appearance in a television series. She is not notable for appearing in the newspapers quite often. I cannot find any reason why she is notable. If you can find one, then I will change my vote. Sam Blacketer 22:29, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Triangle E, please confine your comments to the article before us. This is verging on a violation of WP:POINT. Sam Blacketer is not required to answer to the notability of other articles, and you should not be deamnding that he do so. --Dhartung | Talk 05:10, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • A statement such as "all Members of Parliament are considered notable" is about as absurd as someone claiming that all Big Brother contestants are. Something that I would not advocate myself. However, in line with people such as Makosi, Nikki Grahame and Jon Tickle all having their own pages due to having done other stuff outside of the Big Brother house, Jackiey should ALSO have her own webpage for exactly the same reasons. Triangle e 00:21, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Perhaps it is absurd to say all MPs are notable, but it is Wikipedia policy: see Wikipedia:Notability (people) where it says that "members and former members of a national, state or provincial legislature" is included in the class of notable people. In any case it is irrelevant - see the WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS#What about article x? page! I would distinguish Jackiey Budden from the three examples you cite as they all have media careers developed independently after their appearance in Big Brother. Jackiey Budden has only a few scattered appearances on television before. If she becomes a more important personality, then we can reconsider, but based on what we know now, she is not notable for an entry in an encyclopaedia. Sam Blacketer 00:31, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong keep She is notable in her own right. We have an article on Makosi, for example. Less of the intellectual snobbery, please. Triangle e 21:13, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Makosi has managed a (sort of) career in the media, though her article is far to large imho. It's not snobbery - if there was an article for everyone who had ever been on TV game shows, it would all get silly. I was on a TV quiz once, and had my pictures in a few papers because of being in quiz teams - I'm not notable though. btw- Triangle E - you seem to be the only one making a serious case for the article to stay- most of the Keep comments are yours. Trenwith 17:32, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      • 1. Jackiey's media appearances are about as numerous and notable as Makosi's. 2. I am NOT advocating that every gameshow contestant should get their own wikipedia page, I am saying that THIS wikipedia page satisfies guidelines for notability. 3. The votes to keep this article are not predominantly mine - I made one vote to keep the article and the others were comments highlighting the ridiculous nature of the votes for deletion. 4. I wrote the original article way back when and have put a lot of effort into it - of course my case for it staying would be stronger than that of the others. Triangle e 19:06, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Mild keep It looks like she's been a contestant or notable guest on multiple reality shows. If she had only appeared on one show, I might suggest simply redirecting to that show. But as is we have someone that has appeared on multiple television series and no one article to place that information in. Maintaining this article seems to be the best way to preserve the information for anyone interested. Dugwiki 22:26, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Dugwiki. Also, merging with Jade Goody is stupid since that article is about Jade Goody, not Jackiey Budden. — AnemoneProjectors (talk) 23:10, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • The above comment shows you are not familiar with the subject. Jackiey is Jade's mother. Jade got famous on a UK Gameshow (Big Brother). Jackiey is sort-of known because of the daughter and because she too, was on the same game show. The vast majority of people who are on that game show had their articles deleted and redirected to Big Brother once they left, as apart from being on TV, they had achieved nothing of note. The same applies to Ms Budden. Trenwith 17:27, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      • Although I am unable to speak for him personally, with all the edits that AnemoneProj has done to the Big Brother pages over the last few series, I can assure you that he is very familiar with the subkect matter. Since I have been following how wikipedia operates with regards to BB - the articles for each individual contestant were redirected to the BB page straight away and were only given their OWN pages if they did something notable outside the house - something that Jackiey has already done. Triangle e 19:06, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Though the article is in poor shape (for instance, where's the autobiography she was promoting?), there is an arguable claim to notability. Subject is involved in a significant row involving Shilpa Shetty; it's not clear at this point whether this will turn out to be a nine-day wonder, or something with lasting ramifications. My WP:CRYSTALBALL is cloudy; until things become clearer, I would advocate keep, but revisit in a month. Eludium-q36 18:10, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • The information could be merged into the Celebrity Big Brother 2007 article. If not, keep.--HisSpaceResearch 04:10, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Mild delete, possibly merge with either Celebrity Big Brother 2007 (UK) or Jade Goody. According to WP:NN, "[n]otability is generally permanent", and I doubt the subject will be notable in her own right in a year's time. And Wikipedia is not a directory. Railwayman 15:07, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect to Celebrity Big Brother 2007 (UK), the paragraph devoted to her there is already far more than she warrants. Would you expect to see this in an encyclopedia? I think not. It hardly seems appropriate for an encyclopedia to be perpetuating the cult of celebrity. She'll be forgotten in a month. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 62.136.177.81 (talk) 15:51, 18 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]
  • Strong Keep - I agree that this woman is a nobody and is quite possibly the most annoying person I've ever seen on TV. However, there are articles on a plethora of extremely obscure musical artists that very few people will ever have heard of, and they are not up for deletion. This woman has appeared on Big Brother and has instantly become known to several million people. That alone should be enough to warrant the inclusion of this article, not to mention the infamy she will gain from her part in the whole racism row. --Ukdan999 16:20, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - She may have started out as just 'Jade's mum', but she has more recently developed minor celebrity status in her own right, which none of the other BB parents have. Witness an increasing number of TV and magazine appearances. She is also an interesting character, who could probably do with a fuller article than has so far been written. Ray Ellis 18:57, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - I think her involvement in her own right in reality TV shows leads to her notability. -- Roleplayer 20:04, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reluctant keep. Unfortunately her behaviour on Celebrity Big Brother has made her notable. Axl 20:35, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, increasingly infamous. --Turbothy 00:55, 19 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, she is notable not only for her appearance on CBBUK5 but also because she provided entertainment that singled her out from the crowd - she is also involved in the racism debacle with Shilpa Shetty. Bigdaddyhame 00:53, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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