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Brian Bruckbauer

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I think we no longer assume that a Brigadier General is automatically or even presumably notable -- and there is nothing in this bio to suggest that he might be. DGG ( talk ) 08:06, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 09:43, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. He appears to have retired. Since his area of expertise is foreign military sales, he may end up working for an arms manufacturer. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 10:06, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Easily passes WP:GNG, as do most general officers. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:12, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete fails WP:BASIC and WP:GNG, sources provided, while mostly reliable and secondary do not "address[es] the topic directly and in detail". This seems to be a problem with a number of pages created by the page creator as noted on his/her Talk Page. Basic biographical detail is lacking, we know he was a Brigadier General (not inherently notable) and that he was involved in drone development with India with 5 of the 8 current sources about this fact. The only detailed source is his USAF bio which is PRIMARY and so disregarded for noatability. Mztourist (talk) 10:46, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - opinions of the article creator aside, (btw whose last half dozen or so articles that were sent to AfD were "kept") this appears to be sufficiently sourced for notability purposes. - wolf 20:50, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Really? Where is the "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject"? Mztourist (talk) 04:05, 16 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Er, in the article... where else? (And you're not doing that badgering thing again, are you? Just let people !vote how they want without you trying to argue them into changing their minds). - wolf 16:05, 16 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The page has 8 references, 5 of which relate to his involvement with a deal in India and 1 is a US Army bio, so I'm asking you how you see the sources as satisfying notability. Mztourist (talk) 09:14, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
You already wrote that, and you can agf that I read it. How reading what I wrote, and leaving it at that... - wolf 18:09, 19 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
that's just the point---in the past we have presumed notability for anyone who's a brigadier general, so not much in the way of specific sourcing was required. The standard has I think finally changed.Most of the sourcing is mere notices--none of it is substantial , except his official record. DGG ( talk ) 07:44, 19 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Can we please keep views of fellow editors out of the debate? If you have a problem with someone else, please take it to WP:ANI.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:46, 25 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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