Talk:Afghan conflict

Double Pictures

Why are there two pictures of the same image where President Karzai poses with the US troops? Aeazer (talk) 8:22, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Rename to Afghanistan Conflict (1978-2021)

The Taliban and the Panjshir resistance have signed a ceasefire with one another, so I think it is safe to say that all continuous conflict in Afghanistan has ended at the very moment, and the war is over. Justrz (talk) 14:06, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

I would oppose that move - a ceasefire isn't a peace treaty and it still has to be seen how long it's going to last - after all, conflict is still happening (including the Taliban cutting off internet access and armed clashes between the groups). Like, compare to the Korean conflict - the Korean War as such ended with a ceasefire in 1953 but there's still no long-lasting peace process and so it's still described as an ongoing conflict. NHCLS (talk) 14:21, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

A country not a war, at last]SAMBLAman (talk) 07:02, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

Requested move 6 September 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. There is an overwhelming consensus that it is too soon to tell whether the conflict is over or not. (closed by non-admin page mover) Lennart97 (talk) 10:14, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

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Afghanistan conflict (1978–present) → Afghanistan conflict (1978–2021) – Termination of conflict SAMBLAman (talk) 09:12, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose it apparently isn't 100% confirmed yet. Super Ψ Dro 17:19, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose. Regardless of whether or not the Panjshir conflict has ended, the ISIL–Taliban conflict is still ongoing. Furthermore, there is no deadline, so there's no reason to rush to declare an end to a 43-year-long series of conflicts. Surachit (talk) 22:21, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

We don't include the ISIL–Taliban conflict in the lead as one of the phases of the 1978–present conflict, so maybe it wouldn't be counted if the Panjshir conflict ended soon. Super Ψ Dro 08:50, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose per Super and Surachit, agreed with user arugument Uttarpradeshi (talk) 08:46, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose per the users above, particularly the point about "no deadline." The BBC recently reported that some resistance fighters are still active. Furthermore, I do not think we can treat Taliban claims of victory as a reliable source; the presenter of the Al Jazeera clip that SAMBLAman provided says as much at 0:18: "The Taliban have made this claim [of victory] before, only for it to be refuted by the armed resistance." We should wait until reliable sources have a clearer picture of the situation in Afghanistan and say that the country has stabilized before making such a drastic change. CoatGuy (talk) 00:36, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose the Afgan Civil War which began in 1978 is still ongoing 2601:4A:402:9F10:613C:CB19:E13A:BC30 (talk) 05:10, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
• Strong Oppose The conflict isn't over yet, maybe the War in Afghanistan is over, but the Afghan conflict isn't yet. You can't just say that everything in Afghanistan is over and everyone is living in peace. رايكر (talk) 12:35, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose per Super and Surachit. Flalf^Talk 15:42, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose. Lets wait a year before discussing this. Or at least till December. See what RS write then. Smeagol 17 (talk) 17:24, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose NATO's war in Afghanistan is over, but conflict and resistance to Taliban rule still rages within the country. There is no deadline and to say there is any type of conflict resolution or "peace in Afghanistan" in anyway shape or form is obviously misleading. RopeTricks (talk) 02:32, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

A crystal ball

• Oppose per WP:CRYSTAL that it'll all be over by December 31. Ribbet32 (talk) 02:52, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

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Investigation of war crimes

Just read this, from the Afghan Analysis Network. Reliable sources will hopefully be forthcoming: Afghan Victims of War Crimes Want Investigation: Hundreds of thousands apply to ICC Esowteric + Talk + Breadcrumbs 10:59, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

2021 Afghan Protests

Should we add the 2021 Afghan protests under the Panjshir conflict in the top part of the article where they list the various conflict? I think we should because the 2021 Afghan protests are considered part of the Panjshir conflict and the Taliban has used their military, the Islamic Army of Afghanistan, against protesters and making it more military-ish. PatriotMapperCDP (talk) 4:57 PM EST 24 September 2021

Fall of Panjshir

With the collapse of the resistance in that region, and the Taliban victory, we can finally call the whole conflict. Whatever comes next, if anything, is not part of this long conflict. It will be, if it is to be at all, something new. Frankly, that the warring parties who started it are not the same as the ones who ended it, with some of the states who started it no longer even existing, and at least one changing sides to occupy the occupier slot, shows it ought to have been called and split long ago.