Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James Anthony Gore
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The result was DELETE. postdlf (talk) 18:39, 27 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Non-notable, no sources actually mentioning James A Gore instead of his brother Cedric, and even for Cedric no significant coverage. Claim of award lacks verifiable source that doesnt even show up on archive. Claim of use by fortune 500 companies not supported by citation. Article subject appears to be the author. v/r - TP 15:15, 21 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. It's possible Gore's company is notable, but as notability is not inherited, we'd still need reliable source coverage of Gore himself to merit a standalone article. 28bytes (talk) 15:19, 21 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - was prodded with the above rationale, prod removed by author without improvement. No indication of meeting WP:BIO or the general notability guideline. Huon (talk) 15:29, 21 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Broken links, cites that aren't broken aren't talking about him, notability is NOT established in the least. The product might be, but he isn't, and no attempt was ever made to cite him as notable. Dennis Brown (talk) 15:45, 21 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I am not certain what is not verifiable. Each publication, link, and references should be considered as verifiable. The software created by the Gore brothers is still available and can be bought, reviewed, and purchased. If the LA Times, Black Enterprise, NY Times are not validation what is... (restored by Dennis Brown after 96.24.160.106 botched adding the comment)
- Delete No citations to establish notability for James Gore; citations appear to establish notability for bandlink. Notability (in the Wikipedia sense) does not transfer from one subject to the other. I also came up empty on biographical sources using simple web searches. Studerby (talk) 16:40, 21 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Vanity autobiography. Content and cites almost entirely about "Bandlink", not Gore. "Bandlink" may have notability established, Gore has not. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 21:03, 21 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - Also worth noting that most of the content and cites are copied directly from the Cedric Gore article. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 21:10, 21 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Interesting. Both articles say practically nothing about their nominal subjects, and talk mainly about the technology. 28bytes (talk) 21:25, 21 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I've nominated Cedric Gore for deletion for the same reasons. This is its second nomination, as all the same problems as this article's were noted with it 5 years ago. Somehow that nomination wasn't passed, and nothing has occurred to make either Gore more notable in the intervening years. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 18:58, 25 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- ImprovementThese articles seem to being improved upon simultaneously as each corroborates a specific point in time. The facts and references are real. If a link or two does not work it doesn't mean the article isn't true. Simply means the links don't work. In fact, that is the real reason this article should be allowed and improved upon by the world. So no links are broken and the time is preserved. Jax Billione 22:08, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
- It would be helpful if you could point us to sources (they don't have to be online) that mention the article subject by name. So far we haven't found any. 28bytes (talk) 21:41, 21 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- http://www.zeropaid.com/news/2381/bandlink__spyware/. Ref article in January 25, 2003 that talks about the software.
- http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=754453. Ref article: Tue Nov 26, 2002 9:34
- http://www.norahjones.info/news.php?cod=628&art= Ref article.
- www.helioscomm.com/Clienttestimonial-Javakitty.doc - Ref document.
- http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1365/is_10_33/ai_100111529/ Ref Document.
- Jax Billione 22:12, 21 April 2011 (UTC)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Jgore13 (talk • contribs)
- Only the last of these links even mention James Gore. And the last one is a passing mention about James Gore talking about his company, not himself. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 22:17, 21 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- References
The article is making a few claims and validations. First, the creation of the technology warrants support hence, the first claim is supporting Cedric Gore's article. Second, it was questioned that James A Gore was never mentioned in any of the references of the Cedric Gore article. So a reference was provided to support that claim. As the article is about James A Gore, his communication about his company should be considered more of a valuable claim. Nonetheless I have cited his blog in references.
Here are a few more links that support James A Gore the company and technology he helped create.
http://www.blackenterprise.com/2003/05/01/on-the-cutting-edge/">Black Enterprise - 2003</a>
"http://www.spoke.com/info/p7i7CwY/JamesGore">Spoke</a>
"http://business.highbeam.com/company-profiles/info/c2603252/javakitty-media-inc">Business.Highbeam</a>
"http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0199-2680005/On-the-cutting-edge-who.html">Goliath</a>
"http://www.docstoc.com/docs/63177667/All-Record-Labels-in-Chicago">Docstoc</a>
Blog post of James A Gore. http://jamesagore.blogspot.com/ Jax Billione 16:28, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
- Comment Those of these sources most closely resembling reliable sources are re-posts of the one discussed by Escape Orbit above. The other are trivial one-line mentions, directory entries, user-submitted content or even his own blog, none of which constitute significant coverage in reliable secondary sources independent of the subject. Huon (talk) 16:49, 22 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Jgore13, please sign your posts (not the edit summary) with ~~~~. It's OK if you also include your nickname "Jax Billione" but your posts should nonetheless have a proper ~~~~ signature that links to your talk page. This makes it easier for other editors to communicate with you. 28bytes (talk) 17:10, 22 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Even after extensive cleanup, this still reads more like a company brochure than an encyclopedia article and it's clear that the author is either Mr. Gore himself or someone closely related. More relevant to this debate is the fact that the few references are focused on the product, not the individual and there's no sign of reliable coverage of significant depth about Mr. Gore. Pichpich (talk) 17:52, 26 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 02:59, 27 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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