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Kadencje

W infoboxie? Druga powinna sie zmiescic, dodaj w tej samej lini... --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 21:09, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Moim zdaniem wyglada ok, ale badz lysy i ulepsz infobox jak mozesz :) --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 21:44, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Whoops, didn't see that you're an established editor or I wouldn't have templated you - I reverted your edit because you removed the criticism of the report, which looks like it would violate WP:NPOV. If you have an explanation, just let me know and feel free to redo your edit. ThadeusOfNazereth^{Talk to Me!} 23:42, 9 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Repeated unexplained deletion of content

Hi @OspreyPL:. I'm SiberianCat. I notice you have deleted part of the content from the page on Tommy_Suharto. Specifically, you deleted this text: "Tommy sought to appeal to nostalgia for his father's presidency,(ref redacted here) criticizing President Joko Widodo's infrastructure development policy, saying it had caused Indonesia's foreign debt to rise to $340 billion, compared to $54 billion when Suharto was president.(ref redacted here)" You have deleted this without any explanation and without addressing the matter on the article's Talk Page. Could you please offer a valid explanation for your deletion of the text? Thank you. SiberianCat (talk) 08:29, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

His views on President Jokowi presidency, climate change, Paris Hilton drinking habits or anything are irrelevant. Please stop this edit war. Otherwise I will have to contact one of administrators to block you. OspreyPL 12:33, 18 March 2022 (UTC) OspreyPL 12:33, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi @OspreyPL:, thanks for your response. The content which you claim to be irrelevant is not the subject's views on the president. It is about the subject's effort to raise his own political popularity by appealing to nostalgia for the time of his father's rule, by means of criticizing the incumbent president. This has been documented by reputable media sources and is referenced in the text. I'd be grateful if you could please explain how you feel this irrelevant (without trying to tie it to a non sequitur such as Paris Hilton's drinking habits). Thank you. SiberianCat (talk) 14:58, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Saying that he tried to use nostalgia of good old times of his father rule to win an election would suffice. There is no need of explaining his personal views on infrastructure as he is a disgraced murdered and has not much influence. OspreyPL 15:17, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for your prompt and civil reply. I do appreciate it. I notice another user has deleted the mention of nostalgia, claiming it comes from a non-neutral and unreliable source (a news article by Reuters) - and that you have therefore deleted the remaining part of the sentence. There are many reliable news sources about the subject's effort to appeal to nostalgia. I disagree that I am explaining the subject's personal views on infrastructure - what I did was give an example of his effort to appeal to nostalgia by criticizing the incumbent's spending (and debt level) on infrastructure. Merely stating that "he attempted to appeal to nostalgia" without providing any evidence or an example - diminishes the credibility of the information. I disagree that a politician's status as having been convicted of murder by proxy should render information about their political platform irrelevant. I also respectfully disagree that the subject "has not much influence". It takes considerable influence to have a jail term substantially reduced. There are also much more recent legal cases that indicate influence. Anyway, I'll move this discussion to the article's talk page. Again, thanks for your civility and explaining your view. SiberianCat (talk) 16:20, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

He has as much as of influence as a mafia boss can have. He can threaten and buy votes for sure. He only got 2%. His party is a fringe movement based purely on a little money he still has and nostalgia of illiterate population that votes for him. Writing down his views on Wikipedia is a bit too much in my opinion. He has no influence on policy of Indonesian state whatsoever. OspreyPL 16:34, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you again for a prompt and kind reply, and for explaining your feelings on this matter. I disagree that he has "little money". He is ranked number 56 on Forbes' 2021 list of the wealthiest Indonesians. I also think that describing his voters as "illiterate" is unfair, as Indonesia's illiteracy rate is 1.7% and those who voted for his party were not necessarily uneducated. I do understand your viewpoint that his views on politics should not be included on Wikipedia; however, I feel that neutrality is essential, so content should not be expunged merely because of any personal dislike of a subject. SiberianCat (talk) 16:59, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]