Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Transfer of Cristiano Ronaldo from Real Madrid C.F. to Juventus F.C.
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Transfer reporting is by long standing consensus inherently routine, and is never used to assert notability of an individual. It is therefore difficult to see how this event could be notable in itself. This move can be readily documented in the players article and I agree with comments below that the lengthy discussion of social media impact is excessive. Fenix down (talk) 11:00, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
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I don't see anything here that cannot be comfortably contained in the biog of the player or the clubs he works for. Sure there is a lot of coverage, it is football after all. Means nothing. TheLongTone (talk) 15:21, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- Delete: per WP:NOPAGE. The event itself doesn't warrant a content fork and it seems the topic is adequately covered at Ronaldo, Real Madrid and Juventus; so no need for a merge. SITH (talk) 16:40, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 20:51, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 20:51, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions.CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 20:52, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- Delete We don't do this for an average American team transaction or any other type of sports transfer. This can be a couple paragraphs in the subject's article, easily (and nobody would weep if the 'club analysis' was dumped wholesale). Nate • (chatter) 02:08, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - the topic is already covered well in the respective articles; the extra information in this article is just excessive detail (we are not a newspaper, after all); also a dangerous precedent if we start allowing articles on every transfer that breaks some sort of record Spiderone 10:53, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
- delete I do not see any matter to prove a notable article Hhkohh (talk) 14:58, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - no evidence of notability. GiantSnowman 10:58, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
- Delete This really isn't needed, there is enough information on Ronaldo's page, Also GiantSnowman rationale makes no sense to me, the transfer is notable otherwise it wouldn't of been covered by every media outlet!! You really need to write a more sensible argument. Govvy (talk) 15:30, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Govvy: - my rationale makes perfect sense, read it again. Pretty much every single transfer of every single player is covered as WP:ROUTINE coverage. This one is no different to any other, and as it is not unduly notable (which is what I have said) it doesn't merit its own article. Hhkohh also said something similar, why haven't you tagged them? GiantSnowman 15:33, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
- Govvy, be covered by every media outlet forever. Really? Hhkohh (talk) 15:54, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
- Govvy, I do not oppose you say GS rationale makes no sense to you. However, if it is notable, we should add content to related article instead of creating an extra article Hhkohh (talk) 16:01, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
- I never said forever! I said its a notable transfer because it's a high profile footballer!! Simple fact, you can easily make an article over this that would easily pass GNG, you don't need to apply notability all the time, try reading some of the other policies instead of providing such a dum ass statement. Govvy (talk) 16:58, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
- Keep as per WP:GNGTEST, WP:RSTEST, and WP:VTEST. Ref-checking (talk) 11:19, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
- Keep GiantSnowman's WP:ROUTINE argument does not apply here. Not every transfer earns (such) significant coverage and feature articles. "Transfer of Neymar to PSG", for example, generates 11,700,000 Google search results, while "Transfer of Cristiano Ronaldo to Juventus" produces 20,900,000—almost double the amount. (@Mrschimpf: "LeBron James trade to Los Angeles Lakers" gives 7,740,000 results.) Not every transfer is dubbed "the deal of the century", or covered by KPMG, Bloomberg L.P., Financial Times, and The New York Times, among others. The one who creates pages (talk) 12:21, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
- Merge I believe this article could be rephrased and merged to the article Cristiano Ronaldo by using the precedent set by the section Wayne Gretzky#"The Trade". Electronic data processor (talk) 18:20, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
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- None of the above addresses the fundamental point, which is that this does not need an article; the topic is surely fully covered in the appropriate player biog & club articles. Actually, as in many cases, this is a topic better covered as part of a larger article which provided context.TheLongTone (talk) 15:50, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
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