Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gbenga Oyebode (2nd nomination)

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The result was delete. ✗plicit 14:38, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Gbenga Oyebode

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Returned to mainspace via REFUND after a soft deletion, but notability issues remain as well as possible UPE. There is sourcing, but it doesn't add up to enough. Had Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aluko & Oyebode not closed as delete, I'd have suggested a merger with his company. Thoughts? Star Mississippi 14:01, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. Star Mississippi 14:01, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Law-related deletion discussions. Star Mississippi 14:01, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Nigeria-related deletion discussions. Star Mississippi 14:01, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Courtesy pings: @Jay as REFUNDer, @DGG @Princess of Ara as participants Star Mississippi 14:05, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

At WP:Requests for undeletion#Gbenga Oyebode, Prinzade6 provided more sources than what the article had at deletion, and I assume he'll be working on them. Jay (talk) 14:51, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think it should be considered. Law firms and lawyers in Nigeria have rules that guide against advertisement or self-promotion (here). So you cannot see much information online. In addition, I think the article was only written to reflect his notability. Also, he is the son-in-law of Murtala Muhammed, 4th head of state of Nigeria. @Jay I do not work for him or his law firm. I am just contributing to knowledge on Wikipedia. 197.253.5.132 (talk) 15:51, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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He is the son-in-law of Murtala Muhammed, 4th head of state of Nigeria (here).

Gbenga Oyebode, the Nigerian multi-millionaire lawyer (here). He is a renowned deal-maker in commercial law in Nigeria. Prinzade6 (talk) 16:05, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

By "working on them" I meant working on the article and the sources. Sorry if you read it as "working for them". Jay (talk) 17:53, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
that may also have stemmed from my mention of UPE in the nomination, which was the case with Londstar6 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) but may not be with Prinzade6. Star Mississippi 18:03, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete If Nigeria hasrules against self-promotion by lawyers this is mrely an attempt to evade them. The ref. to "son-in-law" of notable person is not an argument for keeping an article--it rather tends to indicate the lack of notability if it has to be cited as a reason for keeping. DGG ( talk ) 07:07, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
There are a lot of Nigerian lawyers on Wikipedia. I only referred to Rule because I think it may be the reason why you have not found him worthy of an article. Prinzade6 (talk) 22:12, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The Rule only guide against soliciting for work and self-praising. I think the writer intended to show his notable for posterity. Being a "son-in-law" is not an achievement. I only mentioned it for future references in "Personal Life" section for Murtala Muhammed or himself. Prinzade6 (talk) 22:22, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete — Pretty much echoing DGG, and yes @Star Mississippi, just mere going through the contributions I definitely can tell this is strong probable UPE, in all i fail to see any notability criteria met. Celestina007 (talk) 22:29, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@DGG I only referred to self-promotion because there are no much references online that promotes him. So, the article was not intended to promote him, only to show his notability. If you want to delete him, I suggest you delete all these articles too because he is as notable as all of them: Ibikun Awosika, Bisi Onasanya, Herbert Wigwe, Aliko Dangote, Aigboje Aig-Imoukhuede and many more. These are all industry leaders in Nigeria. I beg to disagree with you argument or conclusion. He is a business magnate like these ones and he is one of Nigeria's celebrated and foremost lawyer. Please I think you should reconsider this. Prinzade6 (talk) 21:43, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@DGG I only referred to the Rules of Professional Ethics for Legal Practitioners because a lot of online references does not celebrate his legal contributions but that does not mean he is not notable in the industry. This article is for posterity. Should the article be improved upon? Yes.

Nigerian billionaires gain N512.5 billion in January 2022, see the top 5. Everyone in that article is on Wikipedia and they all have founded leading companies in Nigeria. He co-founded the largest commercial law in Nigeria (Aluko & Oyebode, which article was also deleted), just like the following lawyers: Dana Latham, Justin DuPratt White, Sir Philip Rose, 1st Baronet, William Ellsworth Dunn and many more, who have founded leading law firms as well. So why are these lawyers notable and not him? Prinzade6 (talk) 22:07, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Why are all these people notable? Dana Latham, Justin DuPratt White, Sir Philip Rose, 1st Baronet, and William Ellsworth Dunn. He is in their league and they have founded leading and notable law firms in their respective countries. I think article approval or deletion should be decided upon by knowledge-based experts or country experts. Prinzade6 (talk) 22:50, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Celestina007, If he is not notable, why was he honoured by the Nigerian Government and the Belgian Government for his contribution toward the legal profession and business in Nigeria? These are recognitions are based on merit. MFR is an equivalent of MBE in the United Kingdom. Please read more about this individual in this article. Prinzade6 (talk) 23:51, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Basically, we're not a directory. DGG ( talk ) 05:05, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per DGG, and Star Mississippi.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 12:46, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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