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Thanks for modifying the article Freestyle Script!

cyɾʋs ɴɵtɵɜat bʉɭagɑ!!! (Talk | Contributions) 02:10, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome! I'd recommend trying to find some additional reliable sources about the topic (and maybe the creator?) so that it doesn't get deleted for not meeting WP:N guidelines. Right now the pages is a little "bare bones" Cheers! Comatmebro (talk) 02:12, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

manager notability

With other examples at Category:American_music_managers could you explain what you would consider criteria inseparable from the clients a manager works with which establish their notability? That's pretty much why music managers become notable, because they manage a variety of notable people. BZM's become a subject of focus now that he's had 2 very notable ones. EphFan (talk) 05:01, 2 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I would say there needs to be significant coverage of the manager in reliable third party sources. To me the biography in question didn't really seem to fit that build. Comatmebro (talk) 05:34, 6 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Critics' Choice Super Awards deletion

Hello. I read your reason for proposing to delete the article, and I understand the concern for notability. Please note, however, that I made the article two days in advance to nominations coming out, as I predicted there would be more information available surrounding the awards. If that's not the case, I am open to deleting the article. I have also added another source (one that's more reliable) to the article. --Ajack15 talk) 05:11, 17 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That's fair. I'll hold off on adding any additional deletion tags. Just came off a bit WP:promo-y without any significant coverage of the subject in reliable secondary sources. If you can add some more here in the next few days, you should be fine. Cheer Comatmebro (talk) 04:53, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

New Page Patrol newsletter September 2021

Hello Comatmebro,

Please join this discussion - there is increase in the abuse of Wikipedia and its processes by POV pushers, Paid Editors, and by holders of various user rights including Autopatrolled. Even our review systems themselves at AfC and NPR have been infiltrated. The good news is that detection is improving, but the downside is that it creates the need for a huge clean up - which of course adds to backlogs.

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There are currently 706 New Page Reviewers plus a further 1,080 admins, but as much as nearly 90% of the patrolling is still being done by around only the 20 or so most regular patrollers.

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Edits to Koch Industries

Hi Comatmebro! Can you explain this edit[1]? Your edit summary says "Removed per Wp:NPOV" but its not actually possible to remove coverage in WP:RS like that under NPOV, you can only add more sources or balance existing ones. There is no ground for a wholesale removal on NPOV grounds. Likewise this edit [2] says "Removed content from non neutral source" but I'm at a total loss as to what you could be referring to as a non neutral source. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 06:01, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This other edit to Political activities of the Koch brothers [3] also invokes NPOV but it has nothing to do with NPOV, its more POV pushing. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 06:08, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! POV pushing is right under WP:NPOV in WP:NPOVD. I would agree with your point that this probably falls more in the POV push category, but is it really possible to have "nothing do to with NPOV" if a POV push is involved? Comatmebro (talk) 23:49, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You misunderstand, you're the one pushing the POV. You removed a top tier academic paper on "wp:npov" grounds because it didn't conform with your personal POV, what would you call that besides POV pushing? Horse Eye's Back (talk) 15:41, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lay off the POV pushing

When your POV pushing is so blatant and indiscriminate that you're corrupting quotes by changing every mention of "climate change denial" to "climate change skepticism" you need to stop[4]. Note that this is the exact same fringe POV you're attempting to push at Koch family foundations. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 06:05, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Seriously... How many of these are there? [5][6][7][8][9][10][11][12][13] Horse Eye's Back (talk) 06:12, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Excuse me for not wanting to turn Wikipedia into the Huffington Post. Such obvious attempts to paint organizations as "climate denialists" are a very clear POV push, and I prefer to fight back against drive-by editors that want to paint "climate denial" all over these pages. Comatmebro (talk) 15:43, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You are aware the climate change skepticism is just a PC term for climate change denial? It is a distinction without a difference, climate change skepticism and climate change denial are the same thing. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 15:47, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Then why not use the PC term? If our goal is to be netural why blast all of these pages with accusations of denial? Comatmebro (talk) 15:51, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Because its not the common term, the common term for climate change denial is climate change denial. This is why the page is named climate change denial not climate change skepticism. Also to be clear it isn't an accusation, its a neutral description. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 15:53, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

New Page Patrol newsletter May 2022

Hello Comatmebro,

At the time of the last newsletter (No.26, September 2021), the backlog was 'only' just over 6,000 articles. In the past six months, the backlog has reached nearly 16,000, a staggering level not seen in several years. A very small number of users had been doing the vast majority of the reviews. Due to "burn-out", we have recently lost most of this effort. Furthermore, several reviewers have been stripped of the user right for abuse of privilege and the articles they patrolled were put back in the queue.

Several discussions on the state of the process have taken place on the talk page, but there has been no action to make any changes. The project also lacks coordination since the "position" is vacant.

In the last 30 days, only 100 reviewers have made more than 8 patrols and only 50 have averaged one review a day. There are currently 826 New Page Reviewers, but about a third have not had any activity in the past month. All 850 administrators have this permission, but only about a dozen significantly contribute to NPP.

This means we have an active pool of about 450 to address the backlog. We cannot rely on a few to do most of the work as that inevitably leads to burnout. A fairly experienced reviewer can usually do a review in a few minutes. If every active reviewer would patrol just one article per day, the backlog would very quickly disappear.

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Another Koch question

Hi Comatmebro, can you explain this edit [14]? You seem to have removed a tag without addressing it... In fact you did the opposite, you removed a tag which said that the lead did not adequately summarize the article as well as removing all mentions of environmental and political issues from the lead. What am I missing here that would make this edit non-disruptive? Horse Eye's Back (talk) 20:25, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

My mistake. I was interpreting the tag as "the lede is not concise" and tried to tighten it up. Re-reading the tag that's not what it's suggests - your right it's the opposite. I won't remove the tag again unless I feel like lede adequately summarized the article and is concise. Cheers Comatmebro (talk) 21:46, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

New Page Patrol newsletter June 2022

Hello Comatmebro,

Backlog status

At the time of the last newsletter (No.27, May 2022), the backlog was approaching 16,000, having shot up rapidly from 6,000 over the prior two months. The attention the newsletter brought to the backlog sparked a flurry of activity. There was new discussion on process improvements, efforts to invite new editors to participate in NPP increased and more editors requested the NPP user right so they could help, and most importantly, the number of reviews picked up and the backlog decreased, dipping below 14,000^[a] at the end of May.

Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size.^[b]

In the last 30 days, the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).

While there are more people doing more reviews, many of the ~730 with the NPP right are doing little. Most of the reviews are being done by the top 50 or 100 reviewers. They need your help. We appreciate every review done, but please aim to do one a day (on average, or 30 a month).

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New Page Patrol newsletter August 2022

Hello Comatmebro,

Backlog status

After the last newsletter (No.28, June 2022), the backlog declined another 1,000 to 13,000 in the last week of June. Then the July backlog drive began, during which 9,900 articles were reviewed and the backlog fell by 4,500 to just under 8,500 (these numbers illustrate how many new articles regularly flow into the queue). Thanks go to the coordinators Buidhe and Zippybonzo, as well as all the nearly 100 participants. Congratulations to Dr vulpes who led with 880 points. See this page for further details.

Unfortunately, most of the decline happened in the first half of the month, and the backlog has already risen to 9,600. Understandably, it seems many backlog drive participants are taking a break from reviewing and unfortunately, we are not even keeping up with the inflow let alone driving it lower. We need the other 600 reviewers to do more! Please try to do at least one a day.

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NPP message

Hi Comatmebro,

Invitation

For those who may have missed it in our last newsletter, here's a quick reminder to see the letter we have drafted, and if you support it, do please go ahead and sign it. If you already signed, thanks. Also, if you haven't noticed, the backlog has been trending up lately; all reviews are greatly appreciated.

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:10, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[1] t including another ~6,000 redirects

[2] The number of weekly reviews reported in the NPP feed includes redirects, which are not included in the backlog we primarily track.

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