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Category:People from Basel-Stadt

Hello. Regarding these recent edits of ours[1], maybe I'm missing something, but Basel-Stadt is not a city, it is a Canton of Switzerland, is it not? Therefore Category:People from Basel-Stadt doesn't belong in Category:People by city in Switzerland any more than Category:People from California belongs in Category:People by city in the United States. It's in Category:People by state in the United States just like Category:People from Basel-Stadt should be in Category:People by canton in Switzerland — which in fact it is — it shouldn't be in both canton and city categories is the point. --DB1729talk 05:39, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @DB1729:, it's a city-region, everything outside the urban area belongs to Basel-Landschaft. This is the only instance in Switzerland as far as I know, but Berlin and Hamburg are examples in Germany. The American examples you gave are false equivalences, the only near equivalent would be Washington DC (fully aware its not a state, but it is a geopolitical entity which only contains a city). If you want, I'm happy to create a separate set of categories for Basel the city within Basel-Stadt the canton, but it seems a bit unnecessary to me. Crowsus (talk) 07:06, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't read past the lead where it says "It is composed of three municipalities with Basel as the capital" which didn't remind me of Berlin, Hamburg or DC. Not sure what an equivalent example a "half-canton" would be. Don't worry about creating separate categories if you don't think it's needed. DB1729talk 11:10, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Category:S.L. Benfica non-playing staff

What's your criteria for adding people to Category:S.L. Benfica non-playing staff? I have been adding assistant coaches, and I don't recall Bruno Lage and Renato Paiva being assistants at Benfica. SLBedit (talk) 14:06, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @SLBedit:, they coached the youth teams. Crowsus (talk) 14:41, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, but they also coached the main teams (first and B), so I don't see the purpose of putting them in the category. SLBedit (talk) 14:50, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Possible misplaced categories

I see you have added new categories for some pages in my watchlist. For instance, you added the categories Comarques of the Province of Lleida and Pyrenees in the page Pallars Sobirà. However, that page is already in the category Pallars Sobirà. Doesn't make it more sense to add those new cats in the category Pallars Sobirà, rather than in the page Pallars Sobirà? The same thing happens with other pages. Best regards. Jotamar (talk) 21:48, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Jotamar:. In terms of Comarques of the Province of Lleida, that should definitely be in the Pallars Sobirà article and all others in Lleida, because being a comarque of the province is its primary topic. A reader looking for this topic would expect to find the articles on each place, and not just the categories concerning them. To give a vague equivalent for Spain, the article for Madrid has the Municipalities in the Community of Madrid and Capitals of Europe categories, although both of those are also in the Madrid topic category. Crowsus (talk) 00:05, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hiya, all well? Hopefully so (it's me, your fellow Athletic fan from that country next to Spain)! Great job from "our" goalkeeper yesterday, fortunately :)

Can you find the correct number of Basque caps for this chap please? Certainly does not have two in one year (that or the date was not updated)...

Keep it up, kind regards 193.137.135.5 (talk) 12:25, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@193.137.135.5: hi there, hope you're well too, your usual hard work in the background has not gone unnoticed (even tho you've retired of course). Sabin does actually have 2 caps from that year, there was a end-of-season match against Corsica and the usual winter fixture against Tunisia. There were also 2 in 2007 (Venezuela and Catalonia) and 2011 (Estonia and Tunisia) and 3 back in 2006 (Serbia, Wales, Catalonia) but definitely not common, and scanning over this list, there seems to be only one other player that got 2 caps which both fell in the same calendar year - Joseba Zaldua played in those same games. Crowsus (talk) 16:22, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Gotcha! Okeydokey, i honestly thought they only played once come Christmas time, always learning :) Thanks for the info. --2001:8A0:767B:9C00:1513:52EB:FDB2:3FBD (talk) 20:22, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Sportsmen"?

Hi there. I just saw this change. What is the rationale for differentiating by gender here? Robby.is.on (talk) 18:40, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Robby.is.on:, hi, not sure to be honest, I had nothing to do with its creation, the tree seems to date from 2014 and only be for States of Australia. Some of the States have had a category since about that time, but strangely the one you are referring to for Victoria, one of the most populous states of course, was seemingly only created in 2020. This seems to be a complete outlier in terms of categorisation, and were it nominated for deletion and upmerging back to Sportspeople, I would have no objection and would support it. However, I'm not going to do any nominating myself because I can't be bothered doing all the setting up for CfD, and while the intersection is there, it makes sense to divide the Sportspeople into Sportsmen and Sportswomen for each state - I guess any Trans folk would remain in Sportspeople, but haven't come across any of them as far as I know. It would be pretty easy to restore them all back to Sportspeople again in the likely event of a successful CfD. Cheers, Crowsus (talk) 18:57, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, that's curious. I understand that you don't feel like CfDing. It's a process I am not familiar with and I don't want to learn that now… Robby.is.on (talk) 19:08, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

councils in melbourne/victoria

oops - the diffs might not even relate to your edits in the first place,

apologies...

victoria is the parent cat, so to speak, and melbourne is the child,

hope that is enough explanation...

thank you very much for doing things - the melbourne/victoria subject

area is sorely in need of maintenance and rejigging - so thanks! JarrahTree 10:52, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@JarrahTree: Hi, no it's fine, the edits probably were me, was doubting whether to put them in Victoria and Melbourne as some are quite far out of the city. My opinion would be that the suburbs should stay in both the general Melbourne list and in the LGAs as its good to see a complete 'collection' and readers might not be sure in which LGA(s) they would be found, but if you think differently I'll happily defer, there is already the list article too.
I just stumbled across Melbourne stuff the other day and was quite surprised to see so little in the way of subcategories for a city of this size (in contrast to the articles themselves which are generally good quality IMO), I have a feeling the LGAs don't matter to a lot of local residents (not sure if you are one) but they definitely have some significance having been in that arrangement for close to 30 years, and nothing else admin-wise between state and suburb. The longstanding suburbs and towns (their names were about the only thing I knew about the city, from the AFL teams) will matter more to residents in some cases and I see there are a few of those, but they can generally fit neatly into the LGA trees, it's a bit too much 'local knowledge' for me to create much new at that level, populating the ~30 LGAs is proving quite enough without delving into the nuances of 400 suburbs. Please let me know if you spot I'm doing it wrong! Crowsus (talk) 12:54, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nah, anything is good - big problem is the drop off of editors who have interest in maintaining the areas that you are touching on - and I have no attachment to the larger Melbourne apart from disbelief of the neglect of material sadly in need of maintenance. My places of residence, were and are elsewhere... JarrahTree 13:17, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but some of the categorisations are puzzling. For example, in all the literature I've come across on Tom Roberts and Arthur Streeton, I can't recall any significant connection to Richmond. Appreciate the effort but personally I would be hesitant to overhaul a foreign city in this manner. Edit: Streeton was raised for a time in Richmond, my bad. - HappyWaldo (talk) 00:46, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@HappyWaldo: my mistake sorry, there were some from Richmond who I changed but Roberts lived in Collingwood (which does not have its own category at present but has enough people for one, that would remove the anachronistic impression of seeing Yarra). Crowsus (talk) 08:26, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Scottish districts

I have produced a list of Scottish districts at User:Crouch, Swale/Scottish districts for both 1975 and 1996 districts. Similar to the fact you created Glasgow (district) because the boundaries were changed in 1996 and merged Clackmannan (district) because the boundaries didn't change in 1996. Its indeed standard to not have separate articles if boundaries didn't change in a reform, see WP:UKDISTRICTS. Those that are marked with "no separate article" like Argyll and Bute (district) could be created if though necessary but it may not be worth having separate articles for many as the changes were often not significant. The one I'm not sure about is Kyle and Carrick/South Ayrshire as the order says South Ayrshire was formed from just Kyle and Carrick meaning it should be merged but the articles say (which is cited) that Dalmellington was moved to East Ayrshire suggesting we should keep separate articles. File:Kyle and Carrick.svg and File:South Ayrshire in Scotland.svg do show different areas. Crouch, Swale (talk) 20:44, 15 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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G'day Crowsus. Just curious as to why you've categorised Don Chipp as "from the City of Darebin", which didn't exist at the time of his birth or anytime during his significant career. Where's your verification of the claim? Bjenks (talk) 07:10, 17 October 2022 (UTC) @Bjenks: "Don Chipp was born in Melbourne and educated at Northcote Primary School, Northcote High School" so pretty likely he lived in that area, nobody has bothered to create a category for Northcote so Darebin is the closest thing. Remove it if you like. Crowsus (talk) 11:45, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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England Census

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Percival Serle

Re your recent amendment to P Serle, what is the significance of the "Glen Eira" reference? Serle was born in New St at the house owned by W K Thompson, partner in James McEwan and Co, which as I understand it is not in Glen Eira as it was. Secondly, he spent less than a year there as an infant, moving to East Melbourne (Powlett St), where the Serles lived for about 16 years before his father built in Hawthorn. Serle indeed spent much of his life at "Asolo", Church St Hawthorn, which he purchased in 1915. I suggest you delete the Glen Eira reference.Lexysexy (talk) 06:22, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Lexysexy: Hi, well, I thank you for giving me the option to delete rather than just going ahead yourself, I have no objection at all with it being removed, although I have to say, almost none of the details you wrote just now are in the article as it stands, only that he was born at Elsternwick. My intention is to add categories for all the suburbs that would have enough entries to justify their creation, that would reduce the anachronism of using modern geography terms like Glen Eira. As for Serle, clearly you have specific knowledge and interest so whatever you want to include or not is fine, I don't have the time or inclination to go through the nuances of every article, just trying to improve the categorisation of the city as a whole, across all topics, based on a few seconds of scanning what is in the body of the text, so inevitably there will be a few judgement calls that I get wrong. But, for example, East Melbourne isn't mentioned at all and Hawthorn only as a place of death so I'm not sure how I or anyone else is meant to know that in his life arc. So I respectfully suggest that you maybe add that in too if you have the time and sources. Crowsus (talk) 07:36, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Crowsus. I choose this route to avoid the plague of edit-warring. I will, in due course, add some of this personal detail to the Serle article - I have the necessary references.Lexysexy (talk) 21:15, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]