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1994–95 Tigres UANL season

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Season-article without any sources for the season itself The Banner talk 09:35, 4 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Excuse me Mister user:JTtheOG Hello Sir, I'm created The article 1994-95 Tigres UANL season and you reviewed during autumn, now The Banner and his friends wants to delete the article even it is properly sourced. Can you post that the article is not unsourced?. Thank you. HugoAcosta9 (talk) 20:35, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Greetings Mister The Banner, regards the matches, positions by round subsection, results by round subsection the source came from RSSSF https://www.rsssf.org/tablesm/mex95.html it is the same used by 1994-95 Mexican Primera Division season and it is detailed by the Spanish version of that article, then I structured the matches section based on that info. The source it is included now. HugoAcosta9 (talk) 22:04, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The article was reviewed by user:JTtheOG and includes 7 references/sources/links: [1], [2], [3] [4], [5], [6]. The Competitions section links two tables to 1994-95 Mexican Primera Division season the subsection results by round or position by round is properly sourced and linked to https://www.rsssf.org/tablesm/mex95.html same applies to subsection Matches. It is not copyviolation due to it does not exist a similar page on RSSSF, there is a Overall page including 259 teams and hundreds of matches. However my article contains only the matches for the club in question and I did not copy from that site and paste over here, I use the info even it is clear is not the same. Also, that information is available on the Wikipedia Spanish version of 1994-95 Mexican Primera Division season and RSSSF states: "You are free to copy this document in whole or part provided that proper acknowledgement is given to the authors. All rights reserved." Acknowledgements properly included. HugoAcosta9 (talk) 16:57, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

*Keep - nomination is flawed, articles can and do meet GNG - as this one does. The structure of the article only follows the RSSSF.com reference https://www.rsssf.org/tablesm/mex95.html said that, The Summary description of the campaign is based from the RSSSF.com link of 1994/95 Mexico Regular season, it clearly shows the performance of Tigres UANL round by round, plus the table for subsection called regular season, the subsection called table Overall season, and the Matches subsection of the article is from the RSSSF reference mentioned above including goalscorers game by game. In an aggregate for this article in Statistics the reference Source: http://yalma.fime.uanl.mx/~futmx/MFL/Mex95/News/norte29my95b.html it clearly showed the performance of players during the 94/95 season. In an aggregate I included the worsening of situation for universities during that season an interview from ESPN " Mexican Secretariat of Public Education in 1994 announces that Universities' budget must not be spent on professional football teams https://www.espn.com.mx/noticias/nota/_/id/2101545/padilla-admite-error-al-vender-leones-en-1994-hoy-vale-413-mdp the reference is also included in the articles for other universities football franchises of that year. The description is clear and include how the budget reduction affected the team in that year. HugoAcosta9 (talk) 14:43, 4 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

*Keep - nomination is flawed, articles can and do meet GNG - as this one does. The structure of the article only follows the RSSSF.com reference https://www.rsssf.org/tablesm/mex95.html said that, The Summary description of the campaign is based from the RSSSF.com link of 1994/95 Mexico Regular season, it clearly shows the performance of Tigres UANL round by round, plus the table for subsection called regular season, the subsection called table Overall season, and the Matches subsection of the article is from the RSSSF reference mentioned above including goalscorers game by game. In an aggregate for this article in Statistics the reference Source: http://yalma.fime.uanl.mx/~futmx/MFL/Mex95/News/norte29my95b.html it clearly showed the performance of players during the 94/95 season. In an aggregate I included the worsening of situation for universities during that season an interview from ESPN " Mexican Secretariat of Public Education in 1994 announces that Universities' budget must not be spent on professional football teams https://www.espn.com.mx/noticias/nota/_/id/2101545/padilla-admite-error-al-vender-leones-en-1994-hoy-vale-413-mdp the reference is also included in the articles for other universities football franchises of that year. The description is clear and include how the budget reduction affected the team in that year. HugoAcosta9 (talk) 14:43, 4 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There is no need to repeat yourself three times when protecting your own article. The Banner talk 17:35, 4 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The reference number 1 contains a link to an article where as clearly states about the 1994-95 season even the testimony of the second on board of University' Dean.References 3,4,5 clearly contains the two players being part of the team over the 1994-95 season, also the manager. RSSSF Reference number 6 is used to structure the article, including two tables linked to 1994-95 Mexican Primera Division season and the Matches round by round, also the link is useful to create the crutial postion by round table. HugoAcosta9 (talk) 23:35, 4 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 12:41, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisted AfD per DRV
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Barkeep49 (talk) 17:14, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Football and Mexico. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 15:04, 2 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 17:20, 2 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Yet again, sources lack the quality or quantity to justify this page. The sheer number of these pages demonstrates that this is too specific and obscure. Doczilla @SUPERHEROLOGIST 21:05, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: I don't think there's much of an argument that the closes violated settled procedure; plainly they didn't. But I think we can agree now that they were bad outcomes, and that this nomination was very likely just as tainted and pointy as the other similar AfD cases The Banner filed, all of which have closed (or will soon do) as overwhelming Keeps. We have two choices here: to do the right thing and restore the articles -- not simply relist the AfDs -- or just wash our hands of The Banner's now-obvious bad faith and worse judgment (and for which he's about to be community tbanned from the AfD process generally). That the community needs to do a better job at AfD has been manifest for years now, and that's a problem beyond the scope of this DRV. Correcting this error is within our grasp, and it should be done without further delay.
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