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Neutrality

This article lacks neutrality in almost everyway. And most of the information is inacccurate. There are too much baseless accusations (some of them are very insulting)about said person. Language is very disrespectful and offensive. Noone dead or alive deserves such treatment. Even articles about known terrorists like Abdullah Öcalan is much more respectful and neutral than this article.

Isatay 06:28, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Modern Cosmopolitan, Multi-Ethnic Turkish State

Öcalan is not a terrorist: he is someone who has fought for the democratic rights of his ethnic group: the Turkish state made a terrorist of him and other Kurds (and martyrs!) by denying them civil rights,freedom of expression and education in their own language. Your POV stems from what are clearly fairly extreme right-wing opinions, and you appear to be an apologist for the extreme fascist and racist views held by Türkeş, someone who was, in reality, on a par with the Serbian war-criminal, Vojislav Šešelj, currently awaiting trial in the Netherlands.

You ought to re-read the history of your country form 4000 BCE onwards: you will readily see that a host of different 'races'- Hattians, Hittites, Armenians, Greeks, North-west Caucasians, etc., have contributed to the present population of your country (in the devşirme of the the Ottoman period not a few from Balkan Christian countries also.) The actual proportion of Turkish Turks who settled in Turkey was relatively small. Many countries, at least in the West are very diverse and cosmopolitan in their 'ethnic' make-up. This illustrates why the racist tone of your comment is unbalanced and out of place in a modern context: you see everything in black and white, not at all in the many shades of grey.

Misguided views like yours have led to many outrages in Turkey. In the past few days we have witnessed the political assassination of the Turkish Armenian newspaper editor, Hrant Dink. Yet Turks wonder why EU member states are so very wary of admitting Turkey into the European Union. When Turkey can clearly demonstrate that all of its citizens are equal before the law, in what is in reality a multi-ethnic state, have genuine freedom of speech and enjoy full democratic and civic rights (which includes, incidentally, the right to criticize the actions of the present and past governments of Turkey, as well as individual public figures), we in Western Europe will welcome all Turks warmly as full members of our community of nations. 86.141.217.57 17:52, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your claim is absurd, you are telling nonsense. The Turks came to Anatolia in several waves, the immigration of Turks to Anatolia started in 1044 and continued till 1800. The first large wave started right after the battle of Manzikert were hundreds of thousands of Turks came. They came as tribes mostly from eastern Iran. Later many more waves of Turks followed after the Mongols invaded central-asia and Iran, millions of Turks that ran from the mongols settled in Anatolia, Iran and northern-Iraq. The founders of the Ottoman empire came with this wave. Orrin_73