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Your GA nomination of Turkoman (ethnonym)
The article Turkoman (ethnonym) you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Turkoman (ethnonym) and Talk:Turkoman (ethnonym)/GA5 for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Lee Vilenski -- Lee Vilenski (talk) 01:01, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
Machine translation: Plagiarism and Copyright
I do believe that your edits are unquestionably plagiarism (check relevant policies of any reputed university) but concede that Wikipedia's policy (imo) has a grey area. Please keep a tab on this thread at ANI. TrangaBellam (talk) 13:22, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks, and have a good day. VisioncurveTimendi causa est nescire 14:13, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, that was unquestionably plagiarism and a copyright violation. If I see it happening again, I'll block. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 14:28, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
- ToBeFree, thanks for your opinion. But why won't you provide adequate explanation to us, the amateurs, why it is unquestionably plagiarism by bringing reasonable arguments to support your claim, instead of threatening with a block? Editors were civilly discussing whether those edits fell into plagiarism or not, so I don't see a reason for making a mountain out of a molehill here. Nonetheless, I have already made my position known in the talk page that I had no objection to removing those edits if competent admins concluded it had violated Wikipedia policies. Accordingly, one may assume that I won't edit war on this one or walk into the same wall after. I would still wait for Diannaa's expertise on this one as she was pinged at ANI. VisioncurveTimendi causa est nescire 16:17, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
- Visioncurve, your argumentation at Talk:Magtymguly_Pyragy#Plagiarism, full of links to the verifiability policy and the guideline against plagiarism, made pretty clear that you're not open to explanations about this. I'd else have provided the advice in {{uw-copyvio}} or {{uw-copyvio-new}}, but you had already passed the point of having received the necessary information. You were arguing against what multiple people had already explained to you, so I decided to make clear where the red line is. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:24, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
- ToBeFree, thanks for your opinion. But why won't you provide adequate explanation to us, the amateurs, why it is unquestionably plagiarism by bringing reasonable arguments to support your claim, instead of threatening with a block? Editors were civilly discussing whether those edits fell into plagiarism or not, so I don't see a reason for making a mountain out of a molehill here. Nonetheless, I have already made my position known in the talk page that I had no objection to removing those edits if competent admins concluded it had violated Wikipedia policies. Accordingly, one may assume that I won't edit war on this one or walk into the same wall after. I would still wait for Diannaa's expertise on this one as she was pinged at ANI. VisioncurveTimendi causa est nescire 16:17, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
VC, please remove all of your machine-translated prose from other articles; otherwise, I will have to remove all content cited by you to vernacular sources. Regards, TrangaBellam (talk) 16:41, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
- Further, if you are citing a non-English source, please cite the title, journal-name, publisher and other details in the original language alongside (optional) translations. See the couple of Russian sources, I cite at Astana-Baba. TrangaBellam (talk) 11:03, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
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Why are you reverted my edits in Yusuf Balasaghuni page?
Why are you reverted my edits in Yusuf Balasaghuni page?I just added translation in modern uyghur language that most closest to the language of turkic of Balasaghuni rather than modern Turkish. Also there is a many mistakes in transliteration of middle turkic text that written turkish style where there is no sounds like "Q" ("Қ") and "GH" (Ğ) and because of that some words are written wrong like "Kamuğ" (it suppose to be a "Qamuğ")
So i leave my uyghur translation here:
Administrators' newsletter – January 2023News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2022).
Turkoman (ethnonym)Please address the issues concerning source-misrepresentation which were raised by me at the t/p, yesterday. If you feel that they are not worth attending to, I have no objections but will seek community feedback at AN/ANI. Thanks, TrangaBellam (talk) 13:41, 7 January 2023 (UTC)"
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- ^ Yusup Has Hajip. قۇتادغۇ بىلىك (Qutadghu Bilik). p. 44.