Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/William Jefferies, Jr.
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus. Secret account 01:14, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
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One-sentence article on early Utah settler created by apparent namesake of subject, has no claim to notability whatsoever, fails WP:BIO. Article has been in existence for one year, and yet despite the apparent personal interest of the article creator, it can't seem to get beyond its current one sentence length. Coretheapple (talk) 18:51, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Utah-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:49, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:50, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
Keep - Google Books search on his name and "Grantsville" turns up several results. The article claims he was important to the development of the Utah Territory, and a town founder, which seems a claim of notability. 78.26 (His Wiki's Voice) 19:53, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
- Assuming the assertions are true, I don't see anything wrong with this stub that would require its deletion. Tentative keep. Bearian (talk) 16:48, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
- The assertions in the article are vague and indicate, at best, that he was a small-town mayor. ("He was influential in the development of the Utah Territory,[1] where he helped found the town of Grantsville and served as one of its earliest mayors") I think that if there was substance to them this article would be longer than one sentence. I didn't leap on this article right after it was written. It has been around for a year. Coretheapple (talk) 13:31, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
- Delete By no stretch of the imagination was Jefferies "important" in the early development of Utah. What did he do? Brigham Young, Wilford Woodruff, Daniel H. Wells, and slightly later people like Jesse Knight, were important in the development of Utah. They organized industry, farming and much more. Even if Jefferies was a founder of Gransville, Grantsville has never been a city of a size to confer notability in that way. He was not notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 07:04, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
- Delete. No prejudice against future recreation if someone can actually create a substantive and well-sourced version which actually makes his fundamental notability "in the development of the Utah Territory" more readily apparent than this — but as written the only substantiated or sourced claim of notability here is the fact that he served as mayor of a town too small to confer notability on its mayors under WP:POLITICIAN. Bearcat (talk) 23:18, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, slakr\ talk / 01:27, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
- Keep - obviously the article is pretty lacking at current, but the two provided sources and numerous others easily found on Google books (per 78.26) indicate notability. The standard is not "as important as Brigham Young" but rather "important enough to be noticed by reliable sources". --ThaddeusB (talk) 05:20, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
- Keep While somewhat obituaryesque, there is enough in the way of objective information [1] about his work that I'd include it as a source which, with the two in the article, reaches WP:BASIC. --j⚛e deckertalk 16:12, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
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