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Article interview inquiry

Hi, I'm a journalist who's working on a story about this page. Would anyone who's active here be interested in answering some questions about it? Thanks in advance for your help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by BenLindbergh (talk • contribs)

"Lame" is a slur.

"Lame" has been considered an ableist slur for quite some time now [1][2]. Can we replace it with a synonym like ridiculous, frustrating, sad, silly, ludicrous, absurd, awful, tragic, or inane. Thanks. Stix1776 (talk) 08:19, 18 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have mixed feelings about this personally, but I will note that you are far from the first person to point this out. There were formal move discussions in January 2021 and March 2019, and before that there have been at least three informal discussions about the usage of "lame". (Warning: a lot of these also mention some other, more unambiguous slurs.) So far none of these proposals have ended up coming to fruition. Ionmars10 (talk) 01:25, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. Unfortunate that proposals haven't led to change. L-word being a slur coming from the term used to describe disabled people is not an opinion, many outdated medical terms used to describe disabled people are later used as pejorative terms maybe somewhat similar to how people use the word "gay" to deride things they don't like even though being gay is not a bad thing just like having trouble using your legs is not a shameful thing. The word affects real people, physically disabled people who contribute to Wikipedia, physically disabled people coming across this page, etc. 2600:4040:A034:A300:284C:819A:306E:AF84 (talk) 06:47, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Not only is it offensive to some (myself included), it is not friendly to people who speak English as a second language. "Silly" would be both unoffensive and clear. Can we be bold and just change the name? Or have there already been edit wars over this, in which case the page would potentially become self-referential? Thisisnotatest (talk) 04:44, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I see nothing wrong with the word, its meaning is pretty clear. Roger 8 Roger (talk) 05:15, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. its meaning is very clear. Hi me bye (talk) 13:01, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Metre vs Meter

Honestly its pretty funny seeing americans fight over the spelling of a measurement unit they dont even use. Americans are constantly fighting over this in the weirdest ways possible including misinterpreting rules and even making up rules that didnt exist in the first place. The edit war including 3 offical move discussions and several more unofficial move discussions.

For some reference here are some of the many discussions that took place:

Talk:Metre/Archive 1#Requested move

Talk:Metre/Archive 2#Metre → Meter

Special:PermanentLink/948269358#Proposing a Move to 'Meter'

Talk:Metre/Archive 2#Metre → Meter

Talk:Metre/Archive 4#Specious and non-NPOV arguments for misspelling the title of this article

NotOrrio (talk) 04:26, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Was that actually an edit war, though? RM discussions, even repeated ones, are not necessarily "lame" nor in bad faith. SnowFire (talk) 05:32, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Toby fox infobox image

Can someone add a section about the edit war regarding Toby Fox where he requested that someone make a image of him covered in foam his infobox image? I don't think it's a particularly large edit war, but it is funny and lame. 77551enpassant (talk) 22:15, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Acupuncture

@CastJared: It's not the Boudry claim that irked me, it is the claim that acupuncture is legal and therefore not quackery. Many forms of quackery are perfectly legal. tgeorgescu (talk) 03:58, 15 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Recent addition

@CastJared: Can you please slow down? I'm inclined to just mass revert all the additions you've made. This page is already very large, and is intended to be a curated list of the lamest edit wars, not any editing disputes whatsoever. It's great to be enthusiastic, but seeing that you only joined Wikipedia recently, I can assure you that these are not in fact major, lame edit wars. Your example of All your base are belong to us is one random new editor trying to add something than being reverted. This happens all the time, constantly. The big edit war blow ups are things like Star Trek Into Darkness - a truly staggering amount of edits and talk page discussion in the archive, and most importantly, it being good faith discussion rather than a newbie or a troll. This page isn't really about shaming newbies who don't know the rules (which is probably the AYB example) nor about celebrating trolls; it needs to be real, good faith Wikipedians acting real stupid, and having a genuine edit war, not just a few reverts. SnowFire (talk) 21:12, 24 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Upon further examination, I'm inclined to just revert back to the page version as of January 23 before CastJared started editing, and then add back in others' edits. Every article I've investigated that CastJared added does not appear to qualify. The tone is off, too - this is not the edit warring noticeboard to talk down to editors about how very wrong they were, but rather a humorous, poking fun at ourselves when self-serious editors go at it. At least that's the intent. Too many of these incidents recently added are just not funny, they're ordinary POV-pushing or undue weight or whatever that doesn't need to be highlighted. Thoughts? This would be a bit extreme. SnowFire (talk) 21:18, 24 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Is it a POV fork? CastJared (talk) 02:38, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Er... what? I'm basically proposing reverting your additions (although happy to investigate if you have some specific articles you feel qualify). I don't follow the comment about POV forks. (POV forks are potentially worth listing on this page, sure. I'm just talking about general tone - a lot of your additions are talking about just how very wrong a single editor is, which is not the spirit of what we're going for.) SnowFire (talk) 04:28, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'll put the undue weight template. CastJared (talk) 04:35, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Update: Undue weight template added, problem is, "Some articles are not qualified". CastJared (talk) 04:37, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Snowfire; I've reverted the article back to January. Small bouts of edit-warring and vandalism shouldn't be added to that list haphazardly. OhNoitsJamie Talk 15:13, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved already, undue weight template removed. CastJared (talk) 15:36, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: Last edit was made on 22:27, 23 January 2023‎. CastJared (talk) 15:52, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'd like to add that having witnessed all of these edits, some of these appear... strange. There seems to be a desire to add photos of young female celebrities and (poorly) write dialogue for them participating in edit wars. Very weird indeed. Paragon Deku (talk) 01:43, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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