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Murrough O'Brien, 1st Earl of Inchiquin

Dear Gaelicbow. We seem to share an interest in irish history. You might be my teacher as I am new to the subject and am a foreigner living in Ireland without any knowledge of the Irish language. Thank you very much for your intervention on the article Murrough O'Brien, 1st Earl of Inchiquin, which still needs a lot of work. I admired your clever maintenance tag {{Failed verification}} and I hope that you will accept the citation from the ODNB article that I threw in as a replacement for the bad one from O'Hart.

On the other hand your change from "Murrough visited Charles I at Oxford" to "Murrough was courted by Charles I at Oxford" does not sound convincing to me. In addition it would of course need a citation.

Why did you delete the statement that said he became a Catholic in 1656? It is perhaps a bit surprising but it is a well-known fact that he did convert towards the end of his life in France. This would of course merit a citation. You could have added a {{Citation needed}} there.

May I tell you that I regret the cropped ID-photo-like face of Inchiquin in the infobox that you threw away and replaced with the full portrait that appeared further down. What made you do this? Is there something in one of the guidelines about this? With best regards and hope of a good collaboration on Irish history with you, Johannes Schade (talk) 14:14, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Apologies, this indeed needs to be addressed. Many Thanks, Gaelicbow (talk) 15:45, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Old English or Hiberno-Norman?

Dear Gaelicbow, thanks for raising the question of how the Catholic Irish families of Norman origin should be called. You replaced "Old English" with "Hiberno-Norman" in the article Antoine Hamilton. Generalising this in AWB would give several 1000 edits. The term Hiberno-Norman might be more correct but is unpopular. Running a Google Ngram shows "Old English" to be about 3 times more frequent than "Hiberno-Norman". This should perhaps be discussed at WP:Wikiproject Ireland with people like (haphazardly naming some) User:Laurel Lodged, User:Fergananim, User:Mabuska, User:Scolaire. With best regards, Johannes Schade (talk) 08:45, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Definitely worthy of discussion. Laurel Lodged (talk) 08:48, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Of course I'm open to the view that 'Old English' is more applicable per being more common; feel free to revert my edit on Hamilton if it caused minor contention. I made the bold decision to remove it as a controversial and likely anachronistic term. Let's discuss it further on Hamilton's and or Normans in Ireland talk page. Gaelicbow (talk) 09:56, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
'Old English' would be the more common, however it really only came into being as far as I'm aware after the arrival of 'New English' from the late Tudor and the Stuart periods. In light of that Hiberno-Norman might be a better term for the earlier period, but if sources primarily use 'Old English', or simply 'English', we should go with the weight of evidence. Mabuska (talk) 19:39, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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