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Recent edits

I haved changed this page's importance rating on the Minnesota Project wiki scale from low-importance to Top-importance. I feel that this is warranted because the top-level subjects contain information that would be useful to people both in Minnesota and outside of Minnesota. I have also added much more content from sources. I would appreciate if anyone would like to review the information and check it for bias. The page could also use some more references. However, I have changed the quality rating from Start-class to C-class, which I feel is warranted by my recent edits. I also believe this article is very close to B-class. Please let me know if you have any questions/concerns!A lover of James Garfield, math, and communism (talk) 16:16, 2 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Medium blue

Hello. The background color was kind of blue-green. I modified the SVG for now to another blue and posted a note at Talk:Minnesota#Minnesota_flag_color. -Susanlesch (talk) 06:11, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]


New flag proposals

Proposed "North Star" Flag

Since 1989, several efforts have been made to redesign the Minnesota flag — most notably the North Star Flag campaign. The North American Vexillological Association (NAVA), in its 2001 survey of US States, US Territories and Canadian provincial flags rated the current Minnesota flag 67th out of 72 flags evaluated.[1]


i moved this here because it seems more like someone promoting a new design, than an actual new design being proposed. Smith03 (talk) 18:07, 23 November 2010 (UTC) I moved it back since it seems to be relevant to the debate on replacing the existing flag. 156.99.157.122 (talk) 19:56, 28 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

What debate? Czechia2016 (talk) 20:41, 4 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

There has been debate in the state at since at least 1989[2]; petitions[3], several op ed's in papers across the state[4], bills introduced in both the state senate and house[5][6][7][8], a growing following on Facebook[9] and a website[10]. Perhaps the reason it seems promotional toward the North Star Flag is that it has been one of the longest lasting of the proposed flags[11] I'll revise it with some more accurate language soon.NewMNFlagSheepherder (talk) 06:54, 15 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I added more about the proposed change to the article, including the North Star Flag and Guy Johnson's petition. Should the North Star flag have its own article? A lover of James Garfield, math, and communism (talk) 17:21, 28 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

MN House Representative John Huot sent an email today mentioning the proposed flag change, and gave the above-shown "North Star" flag as well as this loon flag (not uploading directly as I'm not sure about the licensing) as examples of proposed new flags, inviting comment about whether the flag should be replaced. InSimpleTermsJordan (talk) 05:05, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Kaye, Ted (2001-06-10). "NEW MEXICO TOPS STATE/PROVINCIAL FLAGS SURVEY, GEORGIA LOSES BY WIDE MARGIN". North American Vexillological Association. Retrieved 2007-10-07.
  2. ^ http://mnflag.tripod.com
  3. ^ http://www.citypages.com/news/petition-seeks-to-change-minnesotas-shameful-state-flag-offers-9-alternatives/417037923
  4. ^ http://newmnflag.org/designs/northstar
  5. ^ https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bills/text.php?number=SF3201&version=0&session=ls82&session_year=2002&session_number=0
  6. ^ https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bills/text.php?number=Sf3459&version=0&session=ls84
  7. ^ https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bills/text.php?number=Hf1385&version=0&session=ls85
  8. ^ https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bills/text.php?number=Sf1454&version=0&session=ls85
  9. ^ https://www.facebook.com/groups/60969148707
  10. ^ https://newmnflag.org/designs/northstar
  11. ^ http://mnflag.tripod.com

Criticism

The settler in the picture is clearly holding a plow, where is this "gun?"

Also, how is the Native fleeing? Maybe he's visiting? What is the source for that being a fact?

24.154.94.169 (talk) 13:18, 22 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The gun is resting against a stump. But, I agree that some of the things said about the seal are possible interpretations. I join you in asking What are the sources? SlowJog (talk) 04:31, 29 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
In trying to provide a clearer image, I went to the Seal of Minnesota page. The talk page there has a link to http://www.leg.state.mn.us/webcontent/leg/symbols/sealarticle.pdf , which is from the state explaining the history of the state seal. It says the Native American depicted was riding toward the setting sun, but this was changed in 1983 so he is ridding south. It then becomes more likely that he is visiting. 04:46, 29 July 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by SlowJog (talkcontribs)

Criticism section is made up

The Criticism section states that the Native American near the farmer's land represents manifest destiny. This does not have a reliable source, only a few blogs. The Minnesota State Flag's website does not mention manifest destiny at all, and another reliable source says that "The Indian on horseback is riding due south and represents the Indian heritage of Minnesota." As such, I have removed this from the criticism section. Mamyles (talk) 18:48, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Now we don't know what is the criticism about the flag and why there is a replacement campaign.--Manfariel (talk) 15:23, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Illustrations of the 1893 design

Small vexillological symbol or pictogram in black and white showing the different uses of the flagSmall vexillological symbol or pictogram in black and white showing the different uses of the flag Flag of Minnesota (obverse) from 1893 to 1957
Small vexillological symbol or pictogram in black and white showing the different uses of the flagSmall vexillological symbol or pictogram in black and white showing the different uses of the flagSmall vexillological symbol or pictogram in black and white showing the different uses of the flag Flag of Minnesota (reverse) from 1893 to 1957.

In the process of revising parts of this article, I came to realized how profoundly misleading the drawings for the 1893 flag are compared the few photos I was able to access through image searches. I tried to correct some key details of the obverse, but if anyone has the skills to do a better job, please have at it. jameslucas ▄▄▄ ▄ ▄▄▄ ▄▄▄ ▄ 20:22, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Redesign

Added links to redesign commission authorization. Note: this does not mean the seal has or will be redesigned, the commission's proposal must be approved by the legislature. Mrfeek (talk) 14:55, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]