Talk:Doctor Who: Original Television Soundtrack

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Issues

I have some points about the "episodes used in" column that I'd like to check out:

When Jackie is on the 'phone in Xmas Invasion (saying "Oh don't come round"), as she hangs up... is the Westminster Bridge theme played on the piano? I can't quite decide.
Was the Doctor's theme in The Unquiet Dead? I can't remember. Is it worth mentioning its use on Millingdale's Ice Cream website?
Was Rose's Theme really only in those three episodes?
Should we mention that Song for Ten is in the Ghostwatch game?
Was The Lone Dalek definitely in Doomsday? I don't recall it being there.
The CD sleeve mentions that New Adventures was played in TPOTW and several other moments... I can't remember any of these, not even the TPOTW version. It also comments that it contains part of the "rift" music from Boom Town (the rift music was also featured in New Earth); I can't find this.
Did Rise of the Cybermen feature any Cybermen themes?

That's just about all; we must get these things right!--Rambutan (talk) 16:06, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I recall the chanting voices from "The Daleks" in Dalek, where Rose touches the Dalek (it was also mentioned in Confidential). Will ^{(Tell me, is something eluding you, Sunshine?)}_{Merry Christmas!} 12:38, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't remember that! I'll add it in now, unless you've already done.--Rambutan (talk) 17:52, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And where is the coveted, creepy, lone woman singing, Rose/Bad Wolf tune??? I couldn't find it anywhere on the soundtrack! And that, I know was definitely, one that people wanted (well, that and Doomsday). If I can find that anyplace else, please tell me!--JYHASH 20:25, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's track three, The Doctor's Theme, or Doomsday near the end. I'm not sure which you mean.--Rambutan (talk) 07:42, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I swear to god that it wasn't there the first time I listened to the soundtrack. Yeah, it was track 3, thanks for the help! :-) --JYHASH 21:37, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rewatching Dalek, it was actually "The Lone Dalek" that played when Rose touched the Dalek, but I'm pretty certain that "The Daleks" makes an appearance during at least the sprinkler-room scene (26 minutes into the episode, the music has male chanting, not the "ahhhhhhh" sound). Can we get confirmation? Will ^{(Because you're filthy, ooh, and I'm gorgeous)} 15:08, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Title

Might the article be best served with the title Doctor Who Original Television Soundtrack? That is how it appears on the album cover. Just a suggestion... Radagast 04:37, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Quite right. I'm to new to move it, but someone else could.--Rambutan (talk) 17:01, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reception paragraph

The paragraph about the OG community's reception of the CD is fine: it's not a minority opinion as surely at least 70% of the CDs bought must be by OG members! Also, the publishers can't come after us, because it's true. It has been criticised. They wouldn't go after me if I had some silly fan website saying "It's cr**, it's cr**", and compared to that, this is logical, rational and reasonable.--Rambutan (talk) 10:24, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that your "70%" figure has any basis in reality: OG is the largest Doctor Who fan forum, but even if every OG forum member bought the soundtrack it wouldn't account for the album's mainstream sales. Furthermore, there's no evidence that the people participating in that particular thread represent the opinions of all OG members, let alone all Doctor Who fans. Finally, fan forums, no matter how large, are not a reliable source for Wikipedia's purposes. If there's a published review from Doctor Who Magazine or SFX that has these concerns, it would be fine to mention them (with appropriate citation), but a handful of complaints on Outpost Gallifrey's forums aren't sufficient, I'm afraid.

That said, fear of publisher displeasure isn't on its own a sufficient argument for removing criticism. The point is that any criticism needs to be based on a verifiable, reliable source, which the OG forum, for all its virtues, is not. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 19:12, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

On a related note, a paragraph about criticism of the Song For Ten recording used on the CD was blanked today without an edit summary. While I agree that the claim of the criticism itself needs a reliable source (as does the rest of the detail, probably), the info about the differences in the recordings is useful, I think. Anyone want to make a stab at reentering at least the factual aspects of this paragraph in an appropriate section of the article, properly sourced? I'm largely out of touch with current Doctor Who fandom and information resources, or I'd tackle it myself. Thanks! Karen | Talk | contribs 21:41, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, wait. Most of the info is in the article already. Never mind! Karen | Talk | contribs 21:43, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Whilst the paragraph on the album's reception has ignored the overwhelmingly positive reviews from reputable sources such as: The Stage, Music From the Movies and Soundtrack.Net, it has persistently referenced fan-threads from internet forums.

This practice is discouraged on Widipedia in general and has been specifically criticized by Josiah Rowe at this page. It is said over and over that if contribuors are determined to depart from conventional encyclopedic objectivity, then they must cite reliable sources.

Both negative statements in this paragraph are soley attributable to forum chatter on Outpost Gallifrey and therefore have no place in an Encyclopedia.

In fact, external reviews have been extremely pleased with Neil Hannon's contributions to the Doctor Who soundtrack album. This fact goes unrecorded. Moreover, no external reviews have made any mention of 'abrupt endings' to any of the tracks.

From this stand point, the edits are wholly justified.

iTunes

If it was a top seller on iTunes, why isn't it available on iTunes now, only a month later? Was it a limited-time offer, or only available in the UK somehow, or what? 69.248.116.112 01:19, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's on the UK iTunes Music Store. On the front page of the iTunes Music Store, scroll down to the bottom of the page: you'll see a menu with different countries. I'm not sure whether you can actually buy songs from other countries, or if there's some IP-checking mechanism, but you can browse other countries' iTunes Stores.

The soundtrack will be available for purchase in North America in February 2007. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 01:36, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]