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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by 124.190.12.234 (talk) at 05:53, 2 July 2023 (→‎Update on the articles in the works #1). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Grand Trunk Western 5629 moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Grand Trunk Western 5629, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Comr Melody Idoghor (talk) 18:24, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please check your sources before adding things to the Class II list

I've had to revert almost all of your additions to List of U.S. Class II railroads because they are clearly Class III railroads (and I went and verified which are class IIIs, which you clearly did not do). Do not add companies that are not class II to the list. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 20:36, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Grand Trunk Western 5629 (September 21)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Rusalkii was:
This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.
 The comment the reviewer left was:
Well written article, but we usually look for at least several published sources. The two links here look like fan/personal websites, which are rarely a good source. The book is good, assuming it has substantive content on this locomotive, are there any other sources like that?
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.
Rusalkii (talk) 19:36, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Another user’s page

Hey, I’m flattered that you would think of the things I do, but the list on my user page is only for pages that I’VE created myself, not ones that I’ve edited while someone else has created. Please don’t edit someone else’s user page Someone who likes train writing (talk) 00:21, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I respect your request and will do what you ask for. NorfolkandWesternBoi (talk) 12:52, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, I was wondering if you could help me with this new article i'm making Draft:Chicago,Burlington and Quincy 5632 NorfolkandWesternBoi (talk) 14:41, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Corection [[Draft:Chicago, Burlington and Quincy 5632 NorfolkandWesternBoi (talk) 14:42, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Draft:Chicago, Burlington and Quincy 5632 NorfolkandWesternBoi (talk) 14:42, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, sure. What I would do is take a lot of info from this article, which was where I got a lot of the 5629 info from. http://thetracksidephotographer.com/2021/03/18/a-passion-for-steam/ Someone who likes train writing (talk) 23:07, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, It's me again, can you please help me on my next article Draft:Canadian National 6218? Plus are their any link suggestions that you would have in mind that I would use? NorfolkandWesternBoi (talk) 17:30, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] This all the reliable information I could find on No. 6218 for now. Someone who likes train writing (talk) 20:02, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It will do for now NorfolkandWesternBoi (talk) 20:31, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Did all the details I could do, Plus a short description NorfolkandWesternBoi (talk) 21:19, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Did Revenue Service, going to do Excurstion Service later NorfolkandWesternBoi (talk) 13:27, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
So feel free to corect me on anything I got wrong NorfolkandWesternBoi (talk) 14:27, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hey its me again. Do you know any trusted resources for CP 2839? I colaberated with another user to make an article about 2839 NorfolkandWesternBoi (talk) 16:29, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I know very little to nothing about 2839. However, if you ask a user more experienced than me, like User:Trains13, about 2839, I think he’ll tell you, considering he’s been getting information from magazines relevant to the Southern/Norfolk Southern Steam Program, as well as American steam locomotives in general. If he doesn’t know of 2839, try User:Trainsandotherthings. Someone who likes train writing (talk) 01:58, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Draft suggestions

Hey, could you perhaps help me with some steam locomotive drafts I’m working on? Specifically, Draft:St. Louis, Iron Mountain and Southern Railway 5, Draft:Polson Logging Co. 2, Draft:Wilmington and Western 98, Draft:Wilmington and Western 58, Draft:Canadian Pacific 2839, Draft:Canadian Pacific 2860, and Canadian Pacific 1201? 23.169.64.51 (talk) 02:39, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sure Thing. I can help you with some of these drafts. NorfolkandWesternBoi (talk) 19:07, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Great. Just look up these engines on Google, and then find whatever info on these engines you can and type them into the drafts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.169.64.51 (talk) 16:39, 25 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
By the way can you see what you can do with my current Project Draft:Canadian National 6218 NorfolkandWesternBoi (talk) 16:20, 15 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Alright. I'll help you with the CN6218 draft ON THE CONDITION that you help me complete any of the drafts I have already listed above. Doesn't have to be all of them, just the ones you know about. 23.169.64.51 (talk) 17:20, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Deal NorfolkandWesternBoi (talk) 17:37, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Found a few more sources we can use.
1. https://www.steamlocomotive.com/locobase.php?country=Canada&wheel=4-6-4&railroad=cpr#5874
2. https://cs.trains.com/trn/f/740/p/119064/1366830.aspx
3. https://www.chicagorailfan.com/trips79a.html
4. https://nrhs.com/gallery-item/canadian-pacific-guelph-junction-ont-4-6-2-g5-1271-4-6-4-h1c-2839-nrhs-fan-trip-august-30-1958-al-paterson/
5. https://hawkinsrails.net/mainlines/sou/sou_mp_excursion.htm NorfolkandWesternBoi (talk) 14:50, 22 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Chicago, Burlington and Quincy 5632 has been accepted

Chicago, Burlington and Quincy 5632, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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Bkissin (talk) 22:22, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

October 2022

Information icon Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you tried to give a page a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into Canadian National 6218. This is known as a "cut-and-paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is legally required for attribution. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.

In most cases for registered users, once your account is four days old and has ten edits, you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page (the tab may be hidden in a dropdown menu for you). This both preserves the page history intact and automatically creates a redirect from the old title to the new. If you cannot perform a particular page move yourself this way (e.g. because a page already exists at the target title), please follow the instructions at requested moves to have it moved by someone else. Also, if there are any other pages that you moved by copying and pasting, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Wikipedia:Requests for history merge. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 01:46, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Why did you create a second article on the same topic? I'm going to ask if they can be history-merged. Liz Read! Talk! 01:47, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It said that the article was an orphan when I first posted it. I had the thought that I did it wrong and I wanted to try again NorfolkandWesternBoi (talk) 02:18, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Another draft

Would you like to create a draft for Illinois Central 2613, and I could help you find sources and build it up? 23.169.64.51 (talk) 00:18, 29 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Illinois Central 2613
1. https://www.hmdb.org/m.asp?m=49520
2. https://www.steamlocomotive.com/locobase.php?country=USA&wheel=4-8-2&railroad=ic#6703
3. https://books.google.com/books?id=p64VxFXukD8C&pg=PA59&lpg=PA59&dq=illinois+central+railroad+2613&source=bl&ots=Sy9hKiSw21&sig=ACfU3U0XgyZvAeUT1_RAdTJ5ndLJyqdi2A&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi29OeR5qb9AhWwKkQIHaEECmg4KBDoAXoECAIQAw#v=onepage&q=illinois%20central%20railroad%202613&f=false
4. https://railroadrecordfanclub.wordpress.com/
5. https://books.google.com/books?id=IreOLotxqIcC&pg=PA25&lpg=PA25&dq=illinois+central+railroad+%222613%22&source=bl&ots=-146avugWY&sig=ACfU3U3fUcInmLVjLtwZ-JkLTjVkneqPdg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjomb_L7ab9AhXEBDQIHd_rBiQ4MhDoAXoECAIQAw#v=onepage&q=illinois%20central%20railroad%20%222613%22&f=false
6. https://books.google.com/books?id=UyK5DwAAQBAJ&pg=PA31&lpg=PA31&dq=illinois+central+railroad+%222613%22&source=bl&ots=31OUCkyFp6&sig=ACfU3U25UaZpo4S3fukMmOjyDW0Y-vblpg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjLtaq-76b9AhXelIkEHag_Dro4PBDoAXoECAUQAw#v=onepage&q=illinois%20central%20railroad%20%222613%22&f=false
This was the Draft you suggested to me. Sorry It took so long but I did it and I have sources already to save us time. NorfolkandWesternBoi (talk) 15:19, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

YES PLEASE!!! NorfolkandWesternBoi (talk) 00:30, 29 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Great! I already finished adjusting the 6218 page with everything I know about the locomotive from the internet. So with that, I just figured you’d like some help with whatever other draft you’d like to come up with next. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.169.64.51 (talk) 00:48, 29 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ayo! You haven’t edited any of the pages I have created like I requested you to, and yet, I have already held my end of the bargain by adding as much detailed info into the 6218 page as possible, in case you haven’t noticed. You haven’t even started an IC 2613 draft so I could build it up for you, either. Are you lazing around or something?! 23.169.64.51 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 04:31, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hey you haven't used any of the resources I provided for you and your articles. I dug deep into the internet to find these sources and you haven't used them yet. I looked into the drafts and you never added them. Dare I ask whats the hold up or something? NorfolkandWesternBoi (talk) 02:34, 7 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You can’t expect me to work on Wikipedia every single day, because I have a job, and I’m in community college. That doesn’t mean I won’t ever work on these pages. No. I will add the sources and info to the pages, probably later today. It’s just that life gets in the way every now and then. Christopher Kovacs rarely makes YouTube videos anymore, because he works for the Air Force. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.169.64.51 (talk) 17:14, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Wait he works in the air force? NorfolkandWesternBoi (talk) 17:15, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, he does. He even said he started doing so in an update video back in 2017. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.169.64.51 (talk) 17:38, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
1. https://www.steamlocomotive.com/locobase.php?country=Canada&wheel=4-6-4&railroad=cpr#5874
2. http://www.trainweb.org/oldtimetrains/photos/cpr_steam/royal.htm
3. https://www.railarchive.net/randomsteam/cpr2860.htm
4. https://worldwiderails.com/cp-royal-hudson-4-6-4/
5. https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/courier-archive/community/forty-years-ago-royal-jubilee-tour-brought-bc-to-california-by-steam-train-3048778
6. https://books.google.com/books?id=mK8zCgAAQBAJ&pg=PT101&lpg=PT101&dq=canadian+pacific+2860&source=bl&ots=ibS_kQLH6K&sig=ACfU3U1bFm6d2tsQWmz2DV5SW_0Ijrz8Vw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwil8bmRpJX9AhVvjIkEHZUVD0s4WhDoAXoECAYQAw
Finally, the Links I could Provide for CP 2860. Hope these links are helpfull enough for the articles your creating. NorfolkandWesternBoi (talk) 15:04, 14 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.169.64.51 (talk) 02:22, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I’m trying to find reliable sources for at least 1 page NorfolkandWesternBoi (talk) 11:21, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Just In case you haven't heard from me, I have provided a List of Sources for 2839 We can use. NorfolkandWesternBoi (talk) 14:05, 17 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry. I’ve been concentrating on cleaning up some of the pages made by User talk:70.188.111.54. But I can certainly see what I can do now with the 2839 article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.169.64.51 (talk) 01:55, 19 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
1.https://scenicusa.net/080608.html
2.https://steamgiants.com/survivors/operating/wilmington-and-western-58/
3.http://www.stanleymotorcarriage.com/ToursShows/WWRR%20Return%20To%20Hockessin/ReturnToHockessin.htm
4.https://hawkinsrails.net/steam/msc/msc_steam.htm
Sources I could find for W&W 98 NorfolkandWesternBoi (talk) 17:21, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
1.https://www.mopac.org/corporate-history/57-st-louisiron-mountain-southern-railway
2.https://www.number5project.com/roster
3.https://www.railarchive.net/randomsteam/stlims5.htm
Sources for StLIM&S No. 5 NorfolkandWesternBoi (talk) 17:32, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I submitted the StLIM&S #5 draft. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.169.64.51 (talk) 06:02, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
1. http://tracksidetreasure.blogspot.com/2014/02/cpr-1201-at-brockville-1990.html
2. http://www.okthepk.ca/dataCprSiding/spike/spike19.htm
3. https://ingeniumcanada.org/channel/articles/railway-enthusiasts-invited-to-watch-canadian-artifacts-take-to-the-tracks
4.https://yourrailwaypictures.com/cprsteamengines/cpr-1201/
5. https://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocomotive.cfm?Display=1910
6. https://www.steamlocomotive.com/locobase.php?country=Canada&wheel=4-6-2&railroad=cpr#135
Links for CP 1201. Almost hard to find this info so i'm hoping that it's enough to rebuild the page. NorfolkandWesternBoi (talk) 14:03, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
1.https://www.wwrr.com/ride/equipment/steam-locomotives.aspx#:~:text=The%20locomotive%20sat%20as%20a,%22%20on%20May%2023%2C%201999.
2. https://steamgiants.com/survivors/operating/wilmington-and-western-58/
3. https://www.steamphotos.com/Railroad-Photos/Wilmington-Western-Railroad/
4.https://www.destimap.com/index.php?act=attraction&a=Wilmington-and-Western-Railroad%2C-Wilmington-Delaware%2C-United-States
Sources for W&W 58. It is so hard to find info on this Locomotive, and these are the most reliable sites I could find for it. NorfolkandWesternBoi (talk) 14:27, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
1. https://steamgiants.com/survivors/operating/wilmington-and-western-58/
2. https://www.stardem.com/news/take-a-ride-into-history-on-wilmington-and-western/article_fb43b2fd-1c15-5dca-9efa-1446127a1ac5.html
And don't forget these for W&W 58 DomtheN&WFan (talk) 13:38, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hey I'm wondering if you could help me with this article about the Borie Station that was used by Amtrak. Draft:Borie station
1.http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wyomingtalesandtrails.com%2Fcheyennetivoli9.html&psig=AOvVaw1_P9Y7zULqh6ERbe2xBQTu&ust=1682695396448000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=2ahUKEwjy6p38rsr-AhU8It4AHYplAP0Qr4kDegUIARDCAQ
2. https://www.deseret.com/1991/5/10/18919834/amtrak-will-travel-through-wyoming-again
3. https://history.amtrak.com/archives/i-amtrak-news-i-september-1979/@@download/item/Amtrak%20News_Sep%201979_WM_reduced.pdf
4. http://www.trainweb.org/usarail/borie.htm
A few sources to prevent your troubles DomtheN&WFan (talk) 15:32, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

IC 2613

@Someone who likes train writing @Trains13@Trainsandotherthings In Case anybody is intrested, I am creating an article for IC 2613 to keep up with my usual tradition for creating articles on both scrapped and unheard steam excursion stars. If anybody has any sources please let me know in this topic only. NorfolkandWesternBoi (talk) 14:24, 30 January 2023 (UTC) Draft:Illinois_Central_2613.[reply]

I might look for as much info about this locomotive as I can. However you can’t expect every reliable source to even mention every single locomotive that ever existed. For instance, 2613 is actually so obscure that you can’t expect it to be mentioned in more than one magazine, book, newspaper, or online news article. Though, I could be wrong in 2613’s case. And besides, the reason I have added so much information to the pages on 5629 and 5632 is because one of the sources, A Passion for Steam, actually has a lot of information regarding both locomotives. I also found a magazine article that held so much info on C&NW 1385, I was able to take that as a reliable source and put that in 1385’s page. My point is, not every single steam locomotive that exists is going to have enough reliable sources to to have it’s own page. I’ve actually learned that the hard way, because I’ve created a long line of pages that talk about obscure steamers with very little to no reliable sources. Especially Duluth and Northeastern 29. Like I said, I could be wrong in 2613’s case. Maybe there were plenty of magazines and newspapers that mention that locomotive, so I might keep a lookout, just to be safe. Someone who likes train writing (talk) 15:57, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Writing about steam locomotives isn't really my thing, sorry. Plenty of people doing that; I focus on railroads which are often neglected. I do have a few books relating to steam locomotives, but I very strongly doubt they'd say anything about this locomotive, unfortunately. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 17:22, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Name change

Hey, it’s me 23.whatever. I was just talked into making a “proper” Wikipedia account, because apparently, I’m not taken as seriously with that IP name. Larrysteamfan (talk) 17:02, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I am not a steward or a global renamer and therefore I can't change my current username NorfolkandWesternBoi (talk) 17:52, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
What does changing YOUR name have to do with anything? I was only telling you I changed mine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Larrysteamfan (talk • contribs) 20:53, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry I didn't read the comment correctly DomtheN&WFan (talk) 20:58, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Extra Locomotives for coming soon

List of more locomotives for your coming soon segment:

124.190.12.234 (talk) 05:08, 11 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Don't forget Norfolk and Western 1240

You forgot Norfolk and Western 1240, because it actually did run an excursion run with Norfolk and Western 2174 as well as with N&W 1218.

Norfolk and Western 1240 btw is now a Fallen Excursion Star Locomotive 124.190.12.234 (talk) 00:59, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Listen, I don't take every single selection because I have little to no interest in stuff I'm not interested, and that there are some articles that have little information to back it up. I'm happy you told me to not forget about this engine, but this is just a reminder DomtheN&WFan (talk) 01:05, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Borie Station

Of course I can help you with that Borie Station draft. There’s just something I need to take care of first. Please, though, don’t keep adding replies to that one topic page. It’s starting to get really confusing as to which of the replies I should reply to. Larrysteamfan (talk) 19:29, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks and Sorry. Sometimes I forget where I should and shoudn't put in my replies. DomtheN&WFan (talk) 19:56, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What do you think of this:

Draft:ACE 3000

I think its a very excellent idea when you think about it. 124.190.12.234 (talk) 10:05, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Update on the articles in the works #1

Have you planned on working on any articles that are currently in the works?

(My educated guess is going to be this quote that your probably going to say here: "As far as I know, no.") 124.190.12.234 (talk) 22:20, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have recently added an Infobox to N&W 2174 and 1240.
I hope those two articles do get approved by Wikipedia and are created. 124.190.12.234 (talk) 05:52, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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