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Copy edit Indonesia

Hi how are you going? So we've got this article, which failed GA status. However, currently the issues have been fulfilled, except for grammar. I also know that prose is really important to reach FA status. That is why, I'd like to request you all to improve the article, because from the peer review, it is very close to GA and FA status. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Cheers -- Imoeng 05:38, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your recent edits to Indonesia - they are improvements and we need the "outside" input to bring us into reality. Please continue. I think there might have been one, possibly 2, in the last few days I didn't agree with and revert (it's inevitable on wikipedia, right?). But most of the others I believe I either left, or changed them further along the line of your change. I say this, as I thought I had done this with another page, and got a blasting from and editor with a complete revert that included unrelated changes. Did you see what you started with that Orangutan suggestion? nice work. lol. Imoeng, myself and others, want to continue to work our way through the content of each section. I think History, and Geog/Nat Hist are just about good enough - what do you think about etymology? IN particulart this diff here [1] and my accopmanying comment. Oh, please provide your opinion on this issue [2] regards --Merbabu 03:22, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that info under the title Etymology could be problematic. However, i strongly beleive the information belongs in one section - perhaps then it is the title itself that is limiting, ie etymology is just a part of that section in the same way that F & F is but a part of Ecology (he he). I feel it is important to provide a background of how Indonesia came together - ie, it is really just a collection of various cultures at the start, but over 60 years has found a sense of one-ness (with the exception of some in Aceh & Papua! - and it explains why East Timor's incorporation was never going to work - it was Portuguese, not Dutch). I was reluctant to put that in the history section which is written in a step-by-step, chronological order, whereas the background to indonesian state takes a broader view. Interestingly, Australia uses the heading "Origin and history of the name" for the same section.
I think that first paragraph in etymology is still a bit detailed. But I am no etymologist (i didn't even know what is was til i came to wikipedia).
Nah - i am not too concerned about the Wallacea concept. Your last edit was good. It is a very interesting topic in which I have an amateur's passion, but the amount of detail (and tortured syntax i was using to cram it all in) is self-indulgent for a trim FA country article. Later, i might add more volumous and specific info to the relevant articles. I say leave it.
Thanks for the comment on splitting Geo and Eco. There is enough sense to the change, but think we should leave it for a day or so more to get more comments. --Merbabu 04:34, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!

Thank you Feeeshboy, for improving Indonesia even though you are not related to it whatsoever. You contributions have indeed taken us closer to WP:FA status. Hopefully. Cheers -- Imoeng 13:42, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Java collaboration

hi Feeeshboy. Starting today, the Indonesia Collaboration is Java. Come along and help make this a page worthy of the world’s most magnificent island. There’s a suggested to-do list on the the Talk page to which you can add, or just pick a task. All sorts of tasks are required, Images, Citations, Research, Copy Edit, you name it – this important article needs your help!! regards --Merbabu 08:55, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

regarding your question on nomination for GA I agree - it is in very good shape. Perhaps I am a bit of a perfectionist though and wanted to see some changes first made to the Economics and the Govt section - oh, and culture too. I think they given too much emphasis to some areas, and too little, or none to others. I just have no time to make the changes right at the moment. I have asked a GA reviewer to read over it informally in the mean time. A few have, but it is good to get a few different opinions i think, rather than rely on one or 2. --Merbabu 00:54, 1 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Indonesia collaboration

Hi Feeeshboy! It's the last few days of the Garuda Indonesia collaboration. Please contribute!!!

Also, could you please vote for the next fortnight's collaboration? Please vote down the bottom of this page. The collab for the fortnight will be decided this Sunday 26th (or Monday at the latest). By the way, we could also chose Garuda Indonesia for another week.

So please visit and help choose the next article. Any questions/comments, please let me know. I'd love to hear from you particularly if you have any good suggestions! :-) --Merbabu 10:35, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

what gives?

The Zeppo Network, Inc is a S-Corp founded in 2004 which is the IP holder of the ZeppOS management software. It subsidiary, Empowered Internet Solutions is the largest web solution provider for the state of Hawaii. Its inventor has been featured in many trade magazines. The content is relevant and I protest its deletion. Thank you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Robertholf (talkcontribs) 07:15, 12 February 2007 (UTC).[reply]

What Next?

Thanks for the feedback. I have posted my reasons for keeping it there. What next?Rob Bertholf 08:05, 12 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Indonesia - February Newsletter

Hello there! Please click here for the latest edition of the Wikiproject Indonesia Newsletter.

We hope it gets you interested in the some aspect of the project. Please contact Indon or Merbabu if you have any comments or suggestions (or do not want to receive this newsletter). regards --Merbabu 10:08, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

About El Salvador

My question is out of so many countries with even more serious crime problems, what made you choose El Salvador as your target? Do you have something personal against that country, I don't mean to offend you but it sure seems like it. So many countries in Latin America and you chose El Salvador. As a contributor i don't think it's right for countries to be targeted in that way, as if you are trying to make the article unpleasant and just intimidating for the reader. I provided good sources on crime in central america and if you took a minute to even look at it you would have noticed, all countries have many problems and they all have gangs. The State dept's. page that you used as a source has the same warnings for all central american countries if you haven't noticed. I don't think it's right to do what is being done, it's very unffair to the El Salvador article. Doesn't this website have somebody that supervises and checks that everything is done fair. It seems to me that you posting that crime section is something personal, nobody just decides to one day ruin an article about a country just because. 190.53.15.171

'North America (Americas)' ... again

Thank you for weighing in on this prior AfD. Even though an apparent consensus supported the prior AfD in some way, and the article has been deleted, this has reared its head again -- please peruse and weigh in. Thanks! Corticopia 22:29, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

For getting my AfD nom going and completed. It was my first one and I didn't finish the page because I couldn't quite figure it out. (Global Warming: A Serious Problem) CredoFromStart 18:10, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Pics from the leaner

Feeeshboy, setting aside the case you've brought against me, how are the pics copyvios? I cited them according to Wikipedia protocol, with discussion as to why I believe they are valid. If the article is to be merged, I think at least one of the pics should be added to slam dunk. Natster237 00:09, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]


The way I read it, that line is saying that simply slapping the tag on isn't enough, but if you include all information you have on the pictures, as well as a fair use rationale (which I did) then the pics aren't copyvios. Natster237 00:21, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Didn't see that line in the Wikipedia policies. Pretty much eliminates most pics from the web, although I feel like there could be an argument that past a certain age photos are automatically in the public domain...I'm not sure what that age is though. It's tough b/c with photos like that it's practically impossible to figure out who has the rights. btw, I'm not quite sure what you're looking for me to provide in the "sockpuppet" case...I find the whole thing a bit absurd, but I'm willing to see if Wikipedia's "legal" system is legitimate or not. Truthfully though, I feel that anything I write will be construed in a negative light so I'm just not posting to that page. Natster237 19:17, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Thanks

Thanks for dropping the sockpuppetery case and apologizing, Feeeshboy. As I've learned, Wikipedia can become quite heated at moments, but I'm glad everything got resolved. Am I allowed to remove the "suspected sockpuppet" banner you put on my Discussion page? Natster237 04:51, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]