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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Bluefist (talk | contribs) at 21:02, 3 October 2023 (→‎Requested move 3 October 2023). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Requested move 3 October 2023

Efforts to remove Kevin McCarthy → Efforts to remove Kevin McCarthy as Speaker of the US House of Representatives –
Efforts to remove Kevin McCarthy? I feel like a elementary school teach for saying from what? I think the article requires a better name.

Proposing Efforts to remove Kevin McCarthy as Speaker of the US House of Representatives. It's long, but I think we need a clearer and more descriptive name, the current one is pretty insider baseball. Open to suggestions. MicrobiologyMarcus (talk) 14:33, 3 October 2023 (UTC) MicrobiologyMarcus (talk) 14:47, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose — Titles are not required to be extremely descriptive. The proposed title disambiguates as if there were attempts to remove McCarthy as representative or minority leader. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 14:51, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose as proposed; also opposed to the present title - Could easily be construed as efforts to remove him from the house rather than just as speaker. estar8806 (talk) ★ 15:29, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Even just "Efforts to remove Kevin McCarthy as Speaker [of the House]" would be okay. There's really no need to say U.S. House of Representatives as there's no ambiguity with any other Kevin McCarthys. Anyone who doesn't know what country's house he is speaker of will learn quickly from the lede. estar8806 (talk) ★ 15:32, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Wait until we know the results of the motion to vacate. I do think that House Speaker should be in the title somewhere. Maybe Efforts to remove House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.
Comment - well, I've messed up the formatting by including the period in the proposed new name, since fixed but I wanted to add that I support the recent recommendations as to Efforts to remove Kevin McCarthy as Speaker of the House of Representatives as below per BarrelProof. Thanks, MicrobiologyMarcus (talk) 16:22, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed the period, since obvious and acknowledged. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 17:03, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose as the proposed title is unnecessarily long per WP:CONCISE. I am not a fan of the current name, and believe that it should be renamed to be more clear. However, the proposed title is too descriptive. Retroity (talk) 20:57, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose because the title is a bit too unwieldy but I do agree that it should be changed. I agree with the suggestion "Efforts to remove Kevin McCarthy as Speaker [of the House]"
NateNate60 (talk) 21:01, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support The proposed title is long but is not unnecessarily long. It is clearer than the current title. The guideline for conciseness does not require short titles, it only requires they should be as short as possible. Bluefist talk 21:02, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

To interested editors

I've started drafting Draft:October 2023 Speaker of the United States House of Representatives election, in the case that these efforts end up succeeding. Additions welcome (I don't have much time to edit today myself). Elli (talk | contribs) 19:51, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Page rename/move now that McCarthy has been removed

Now that McCarthy has been removed we need to decide what to do with this article. Either:

  1. Rename this article and create a new article for October 2023 Speaker of the United States House of Representatives election
  2. Merge this article with a future October 2023 Speaker of the United States House of Representatives election article.

I have no opinion. This article does need to be renamed. Thoughts? Esolo5002 (talk) 20:46, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'd prefer to merge this to October 2023 Speaker of the United States House of Representatives election. Can be split out if necessary, but I doubt that would be the case. Elli (talk | contribs) 20:53, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure if this should be renamed or moved but if this is not merged, then I propose the title "Removal of House Speaker Kevin McCarthy." HadesTTW (he/him • talk) 20:53, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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