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The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 26 May 2020 (UTC) [1].

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List of Bandai Namco video game franchises

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Nominator(s): Namcokid47 ^(Contribs) 21:29, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

This is the third time I have decided to nominate this for FLC. This is a comprehensive list of all video game franchises created by Bandai Namco Holdings and its subsidiaries, including Banpresto and B.B. Studio, alongside those from both Namco and Bandai created prior to the merge. All entries contain references from reliable sources that prove it is a series, all of which meet WP:V. This list has been a personal project of mine that I have worked hard on improving and fixing, and I hope to see this finally become a Featured List. Namcokid47 ^(Contribs) 21:29, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

Comments from Spy-cicle

Third time's the charm, let's take a look:

• The first reference is to Bandai Namco Entertainment's coporate history yet the first sentence is about Bandai Namco Holdings. This is quite confusing.
  • Replaced source. Namcokid47 ^(Contribs) 00:47, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
    • Confirmed.  Spy-cicle💥  ^Talk? 16:13, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
• In references the website parameter should be filled as well as the publisher parameter. E.g. for website=Eurogamer the publisher=Gamer Network. A useful list is on WP:VG/RS.
  • Done.  Spy-cicle💥  ^Talk? 16:13, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
• "As of 2017, Bandai Namco was the largest toy company by revenue in the world" Statista source states 2018.
  • Corrected. Namcokid47 ^(Contribs) 00:47, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
    • The Newzoo source here needs to have a more recently archived version. This is becuase the ranking used in the archived source from 2017 differs from the 2019 ranking.  Spy-cicle💥  ^Talk? 16:13, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
      • • Fixed. Namcokid47 ^(Contribs) 16:49, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
    • Confirmed.  Spy-cicle💥  ^Talk? 13:05, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
• "as well as the third-largest video game company..." I think the "as well as" is redundant here since you are using a list.
  • Corrected. Namcokid47^(Contribs) 00:47, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
    • Confirmed.  Spy-cicle💥  ^Talk? 16:13, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
• "Bandai Namco owns former developer Banpresto, which operates as a toy company in Japan and was purchased in 2008," ,In the source it states Namco Bandai Holdings made Banpresto a wholly owned subsidiary in June 2006 hence it was purchased in 2006 not 2008.
  • Bandai Namco purchased Banpresto in 2006, and merged their video game operations with theirs in 2008. Fixed. Namcokid47 ^(Contribs) 00:47, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
    • Confirmed.  Spy-cicle💥  ^Talk? 16:13, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
• "The company retains the rights to defunct developer BEC" Could you be more specific here? Do you mean BEC's video game intellectual property? If so it may be worth stating for clarity.
  • Clarified, they own the video game assets of BEC. Namcokid47 ^(Contribs) 00:47, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
    • Confirmed.  Spy-cicle💥  ^Talk? 16:13, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
• " Licensed IP" I do not see why the acronym is since Intellectual property (IP) was not introduced in the lede.
  • Not sure what you mean here...? Namcokid47 ^(Contribs) 00:47, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
    • I was confused as to why "IP" was used over "Intellectual property" in the key for the table. Although this has already been addressed by Dissident93 when he changed "Licensed IP" to "Note: Fields highlighted in yellow are licensed intellectual properties"  Spy-cicle💥  ^Talk? 19:42, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
      • Yeah, we shouldn't be using abbreviations unless we've used the full word at least once prior. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 20:41, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

I have not managed to look at the table yet.  Spy-cicle💥  ^Talk? 23:53, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

• Spy-cicle I've corrected all errors you have brought up so far. Namcokid47 ^(Contribs) 02:04, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
  • @Namcokid47: Just to remind you there are still some outstanding issues below.  Spy-cicle💥  ^Talk? 19:47, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
    • @Spy-cicle: Not sure what you mean here. The Statista source does show the revenue of the company. Namcokid47 ^(Contribs) 01:07, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

      @Namcokid47: My concern was that the archived Statista source not display the infomation regarding the revenue of the company instead showing a pop-up for a subscription. However, I did not see that there was a paragraph of prose which was not covered by a pop-up. Although, there is still a small issue with this archived source as it is not the most up to date infomation on the revenue of the company as it is displaying 2017 infomation as opposed to the 2018 infomation currently being linked. This needs to be fixed as is states "As of 2019".  Spy-cicle💥  ^Talk? 18:51, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

  • Okay it seems you have fixed all the issues addressed so far in the lede however I have found something else. Currently the archived Statista source does not display the infomation regarding the revenue of the company.  Spy-cicle💥  ^Talk? 18:29, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Additionally the references in Japanese need to have the following parameters filled out: trans-title, trans-website (if applicable), language.  Spy-cicle💥  ^Talk? 17:58, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
  • @Namcokid47: Are you going to the above two issues?  Spy-cicle💥  ^Talk? 22:53, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
    • I already did. Namcokid47 ^(Contribs) 23:37, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
      • The language parameter and Statista archived source still need to be addressed.  Spy-cicle💥  ^Talk? 20:13, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
        • @Spy-cicle: - The Statista source actually does display the revenue of the company: "In 2018, Namco Bandai had the highest annual revenue of the selected toy companies, generating revenues of 6.6 billion U.S. dollars." I have also added the trans-title parameter to all Japanese refs. Namcokid47 ^(Contribs) 17:37, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
        • @Spy-cicle: - Hate to ping you again, but are you planning on commenting? I've covered the two issues you brought up. Namcokid47 ^(Contribs) 21:09, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

          Sorry this slipped my mind. Support Regards  Spy-cicle💥  ^Talk? 16:22, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Resolved comments from ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:03, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

;Comments from ChrisTheDude Drive-by comment - Cells highlighted in yellow also need a symbol, as colour alone cannot be used per MOS:ACCESS -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 21:39, 8 January 2020 (UTC) Further comments "The core video game branch of the company is Bandai Namco Entertainment [...] and continues to develop games for home console" - doesn't make grammatical sense. The "and" should probably be "which" "defunct developer BEC, who merged" => which merged .hack is initially listed under H, but when that column is re-sorted it jumps to the top - need to use a sort template to ensure it stays under H (same applies to the first/last release columns) Think that's it from me -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:06, 10 January 2020 (UTC) Resolved these issues. Namcokid47 (Contribs) 16:43, 15 January 2020 (UTC) .hack still sorts at the top in the first/last release columns. Also I just noticed that in the refs Statista is spelt incorrectly -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:37, 16 January 2020 (UTC) @Namcokid47: - any plans to fix the above? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:31, 5 February 2020 (UTC) Sorry, I've been busy with other stuff. I'll get to fixing these right away. Namcokid47 (Contribs) 15:21, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

• Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:03, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

Comments –

• "while Tekken is its best selling franchise, selling over 40 million copies across multiple platforms." Having "selling" twice in three words isn't the best writing possible; how about "with sales of over 40 million copies" instead?
• "and is also the third-largest video game company in Japan...". The "also" is redundant here and can be removed to make the sentence tighter without affecting its meaning.
• I've never been a fan of "List of" section headings, as it's obvious from the title that this is a list. "Franchises" would work just as well as a title.
• I haven't checked the references in detail, but ref 47 has all caps ("GOD EATER") that should be removed. Giants2008 (Talk) 01:27, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

• The article passes my source review. I do wonder if the lead needs to be a bit longer, but I don't really know what it is missing. It is probably alright --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 04:22, 6 March 2020 (UTC
• The company owns the video game assets - I would insert "also" before owns. Otherwise everything looks great, the lede svg is very aesthetically appealing. ~ HAL333 00:52, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
  • @HAL333: - Done. Namcokid47 ^(Contribs) 01:19, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
• Support ~ HAL333 01:21, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Promoting. --PresN 02:39, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

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