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Iman Gadzhi

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Doesn't pass WP:GNG, WP:ANYBIO, WP:NCREATIVE, or WP:ENTERTAINER. None of the sources are all these three things at the same time: (1) independent of the subject, (2) reliable, (3) in-depth in terms of coverage. The person may have had some unspecified roles in some productions (World's Greatest Social Stars, Top 25!, etc.) but there is no evidence that these are significant productions and there is no evidence that these were significant roles. There is some coverage of a thing associated with the subject called "monk mode". Coverage of that is not meaningful in terms of sources useful for establishing notability either. The person has not made "unique, prolific or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment" and is not "known for originating a significant new concept, theory, or technique". His YouTube channel, TikTok and other online presences are not encyclopedically relevant at all. —Alalch E. 12:44, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Internet, Russia, and United Kingdom. —Alalch E. 12:44, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: The article can be improved upon. Subject is notable. Wallclockticking (talk) 22:34, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You are the paid editor who created the article. —Alalch E. 22:55, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Paid editor? Let us use such labels lightly please. I don't even know the subject of the article and I won't take such disrespect from you. Be guided. Wallclockticking (talk) 00:41, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
yes you are a paid editor, and a terrible one! Iman can not and will not just buy his way into getting a Wikipedia page. Sorry 2601:589:4E00:BE40:B530:8AFE:23E7:A3B5 (talk) 19:26, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This post is in violation of Wikipedia:No personal attacks which clealy states "No accusations about personal behavior that lack evidence. Serious accusations require serious evidence, usually in the form of diffs and links". Wallclockticking (talk) 07:56, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I nominated this last go round... Same reasons apply. I'll also mention that source 10 is patently false, the person's name doesn't appear at all in the article. Oaktree b (talk) 23:46, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I think the author meant to link to this article [1], which is a first person retelling of the interview, so not really helping sourcing. Oaktree b (talk) 23:51, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Sources 20 and 21 are tours of his house, but mostly photo captions to social media reposts. Not helping notability. Oaktree b (talk) 23:49, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your time and comments. I will do my best to implement any advice I get from here. I really dont want the article deleted, it will hurt me so much. Wallclockticking (talk) 01:10, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It's not personal, it's wiki-business, to coin a phrase. Oaktree b (talk) 20:02, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: The subject of the article is obviously notable. The only issue I found out when going through the page is that the editor is still new and isn’t very conversant with Wikipedia guidelines yet. Amaekuma (talk) 08:39, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The subject could be notable, yes, but there are no sources that discuss him at length, that's the issue. Oaktree b (talk) 14:45, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
As your bio points out "This user recognizes the importance of citing sources." Oaktree b (talk) 14:46, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have seen you try to throw around your weight around because I am a new editor. You are trying to intimidate me. You will fail. Wallclockticking (talk) 17:51, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: A notable social media personality who is mentioned in the same breathe as MrBeast, Patrick Bet-David, Dan Bilzerian, Dixie D'Amelio, Paul Logan, etc. Notable as an online personality and influencer and falls into that category. I think some people have a perchant for avoiding the media and keep a lowkey lifestyle. But that doesn't mean they are less notable. Laurengoldstreet (talk) 19:35, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Please provide extensive sourcing for the individual. Mentioned with others doesn't confer notability on this person. He can be as lowkey as he wants, with proper sourcing, anything can have an article here. Oaktree b (talk) 20:00, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Same as first deletion, not enough has been done to demonstrate notability Nswix (talk) 20:10, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The subject seems notable enough. I rather say every other person can help improve this article to put it in its best state possible. Onosco23 (talk) 07:56, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yet another WP:ITSNOTABLE comment. This commenter with 61 edits participated in this obscure AfD that resulted in a crypto spam page being deleted. He recommended keeping saying it can be worked upon in order to improve its quality. —Alalch E. 08:55, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It most certainly could, but the commenter should provide sourcing examples to help the discussion here. Oaktree b (talk) 15:54, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Reason: His online presence alone is good enough for a Wikipedia page. His notability is uncontestable. Coupled with the businesses he founded. Page should stay. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abdhoul 138 (talk • contribs) 09:31, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oh right, his notability is uncontestable, how did I fail to notice this... sheesh, I really need to remember to refer to the list of uncontestably notable influencers every time I start an AfD. —Alalch E. 10:26, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! Wallclockticking (talk) 16:59, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Well, we are contesting the notability, I'd ask Abdhoul above to provide better sources than what we currently have, which are not very helpful. Oaktree b (talk) 15:55, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Wallclockticking (talk) 16:59, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Review of the sources shows virtually nothing reliable, or in-depth. Note: source 11 is an WP:RS, but makes no mention of the subject. I see nothing encyclopaedic here; potentially a candidate for salt. ResonantDis_tortion 23:11, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Reason: Most likely done by a paid editor who created this article which it seems like, lack of real notability on this individual looks like paid for press links to write about himself which is completely against Wikipedia's terms. You can't buy your way into a page it's just piteous and diverting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:589:4E00:BE40:B530:8AFE:23E7:A3B5 (talk) 21:57, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This post is in violation of Wikipedia:No personal attacks, which states that "No accusations about an editor without evidence".

This post is in violation of Wikipedia:IP addresses are not people.

Wallclockticking (talk) 07:13, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Source analysis table:

Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
Source assessment table:
"How Is This 21-Year-Old Entrepreneur Making Millions On YouTube ?". MYCOMEUP Magazine. 2021-04-26. Retrieved 2023-11-22.	looks like sponsored content	blog	promotional content	✘ No
"Iman Gadzhi - From High School Drop Out To Founder Of The World's Largest Education Company". Inspiring Startups. 2020-07-01. Retrieved 2023-11-18.	looks like sponsored content; interview	blog of one invividual with it being possible that some content is by anonymous authors	interview and promotional content, including the preposterous claim that he is the "founder of the world's largest education company"	✘ No
"Iman Gadzhi: Joe Rogan Wannabe Or Future Industry Disrupter?". Sir Thorney. 2022-09-01. Retrieved 2023-11-23.		personal blog of "George (Sir Thorney)", an online marketing professional who started a bathroom decor brand.	~ bit harder to evaluate this source on whether it consists of promotion	✘ No
"Iman Gadzhi Shares His Incredible Story Of Making $25 Million By 22 And Building 5 Schools In Nepal". OK Magazine. 2022-09-25. Retrieved 2023-11-22.	looks like sponsored content	tabloid-type source, article "By:OK! Staff", no evidence of editorial oversight	promotional content	✘ No
"Iman Gadzhi (@realimangadzhi) Official". TikTok. Retrieved 2023-11-18.	self			✘ No
"Meet Iman Gadzhi: Millionaire Agency Owner". Grow Your Agency. 2019-03-04. Retrieved 2023-11-22.	self			✘ No
"The Journey of Iman Gadzhi: A Blueprint for a Sigma Male". Eternobody Fitness. Retrieved 2023-11-22.	looks like sponsored content	advertisement	promotional content	✘ No
"How To Sign A Client With Iman Gadzhi". MYCOMEUP Magazine. 2021-08-23. Retrieved 2023-11-22.	looks like sponsored content; interview	purely promotional website	promotional content	✘ No
"Youtuber Iman Gadzhi Shares 7 Ways to Make $10,000 A Month In 2023". Tlux Media. 2023-02-07. Retrieved 2023-11-19.	looks like sponsored content	marketing agency	promotional content / advertisement	✘ No
"What Is The 'Monk Mode' Trend On TikTok?". Indy100.		tabloid-type churnalism platform of The Independent (sad)	no significant coverage of the subject (only a mention)	✘ No
"The People Going 'Monk Mode' To Limit Social Media Use". BBC News. 2023-10-01. Retrieved 2023-11-23.			no mention of the subject	✘ No
"I'm a CEO Who Tried 'Monk Mode' After Seeing It On TikTok. It Took A Month To Get Used To But Now My Productivity Is 5 Times Better". Business Insider. Retrieved 2023-11-23.		~ WP:BUSINESSINSIDER; interview with another individual ("This as-told-to essay is based on a conversation with Josh Wood, the 32-year-old CEO and founder of the tech hospitality company Bloc, ..."), not reliable for claims about Gadzhi	no significant coverage of the subject (only a mention)	✘ No
World's Greatest Social Stars! Top 25 (TV Series 2015–2020) 6.8 \| Reality-TV, retrieved 2023-11-19	~ can't know	WP:IMDB		✘ No
"Iman Gadzhi's Filmography (Internet Celeb, Actor, Entrepreneur)". Iman Gadzhi Filmography. Retrieved 2023-11-19.	self			✘ No
Kings of the Internet (TV Series 2022– ) 4.7 \| Action, News, Reality-TV, retrieved 2023-11-19	~ can't know	WP:IMDB		✘ No
"Wie is Iman Gadzhi? - The Ecom Agency". theecomagency.nl (in Dutch). Retrieved 2023-11-19.	looks like sponsored content	marketing agency	promotional content ("So Iman Gadzhi is not only committed to his own success, but he also strives to help others succeed and have a positive impact on the world. His philanthropic efforts make him an inspiring figure that goes beyond just the business aspect of his career.")	✘ No
"'Cape Town Is SO cheap, I struggle To Spend $30k a month,' Says Russian Tycoon, Iman Gadzhi". CapeTalk. Retrieved 2023-11-18.	~ could be sponsored content	CapeTalk is a mainstream South African radio station, but their website is not very journalistic to put it mildly, with clickbait titles and no indication of editorial oversight	brief retelling of Gadzhi's video content with hardly any original insight, analysis or critique	✘ No
"Unveiling Iman Gadzhi's Luxurious $10,800 Home Gym". Gym Nirvana. 2023-11-15. Retrieved 2023-11-19.	looks like sponsored content	advertising platform run by an anonymous operator	promotional content	✘ No
"LOOK: Russian tycoon says he STRUGGLES to spend R500k per month in Cape Town". The South African. 2022-10-03. Retrieved 2023-11-18.		~ this website is a mainstream South African online WP:NEWSORG, but not all of their articles are journalistic and many are tabloid-like; this article calls Gadzhi a "Russian tycoon" which is obviously false	churnalism; retelling of Gadzhi's video content relating to cost of living in South Africa; the article does not center on Gadzhi as such	✘ No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

—Alalch E. 16:41, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Someone created a table and indicated whatever he could conjour up in his biased mind and called it assessment. Trying to intimidate amd sway votes because you have spent more time on Wikipedia is a Putin and Mugabe like behavior. Wallclockticking (talk) 17:57, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please understand and respect that it is detrimental to Wikipedia's goals of being a free online encyclopedia that acts a source of knowledge, and therefore needs to remain credible, to allow pages like the one you've created here to be allowed to remain a part of the encyclopedia. —Alalch E. 18:19, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Respect Wikipedia's goals acting as a source of free knowledge, and stop complaining that you aren't most gonna get paid for getting your devious under the table job done to attempt to create a Wikipedia page for undisclosed payments. :))) @Wallclockticking 2601:589:4E00:BE40:9123:9291:D92A:76E6 (talk) 23:40, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]