Talk:Cryosphere

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Section sizes

Section size for Cryosphere (22 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	1,970	1,970
Definition and terminology	1,509	1,509
Properties and interactions	2,174	8,626
Residence time and extent	1,248	1,248
Surface reflectance	1,931	1,931
Thermal properties of cryospheric elements	2,370	2,370
Climate change feedback mechanisms	903	903
Components	18	8,923
Glaciers and ice sheets	2,887	2,887
Sea ice	2,805	2,805
Frozen ground and permafrost	76	76
Snow cover	1,446	1,446
Ice on lakes and rivers	1,691	1,691
Changes caused by climate change	97	6,990
Ice sheet melt	835	835
Decline of glaciers	85	85
Sea ice decline	77	77
Permafrost thaw	72	72
Snow cover decrease	5,824	5,824
See also	213	213
References	30	30
External links	405	405
Total	28,666	28,666

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Most of the article was originally taken from the EOS Science Plan, a NASA publication that is in the public domain (according to the general NASA rules and personal correspondence with the editor). Text was first added in 2006; has been subsequently modified. -- phoebe / (talk to me) 02:50, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

vandalism

I don't know how to, can someone revert that vandalism?

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About Ecosystem in cyosphere

How the BIOsphere is worked there Shaik irfan Meera (talk) 05:29, 27 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Only 67m

Under Glaciers and Ice Sheets; Currently;

Ice sheets are …holding approximately 77% of the global total. This corresponds to 80 m of world sea-level equivalent,

Is 74.7m, using 77% (cited here), of 3.465 E+16 tonne (or m³) (2.5% of 1.386E+18) cited at Hydrosphere,

and 66.9m using the 68.9% cited at Hydrosphere. MBG02 (talk) 20:31, 23 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

IPCC Special Report on the Ocean and Cryosphere in a Changing Climate (SROCC)

Article requires new update on the state of the cryosphere, due to be released on the 25th of September. Viriditas (talk) 21:57, 23 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Removed further reading list

I think this further reading list is not adding value for our readers, so I have removed it:

Brown, R. D., and P. Cote, 1992: Inter annual variability in land fast ice thickness in the Canadian High Arctic, 1950–89. Arctic, 45, 273–284.
Chahine, M. T., 1992: The hydrological cycle and its influence on climate. Nature, 359, 373–380.
Flato, G. M., and R. D. Brown, 1996: Variability and climate sensitivity of landfast Arctic sea ice. J. Geophys. Res., 101(C10), 25,767–25,777.
Groisman, P. Ya, T. R. Karl, and R. W. Knight, 1994b: Changes of snow cover, temperature and radiative heat balance over the Northern Hemisphere. J. Climate, 7, 1633–1656.
Hughes, M. G., A. Frei, and D. A. Robinson, 1996: Historical analysis of North American snow cover extent: merging satellite and station-derived snow cover observations. Proc. 53rd Eastern Snow Conference, Williamsburg, Virginia, 21–31.
Huybrechts, P., 1990: The Antarctic ice sheet during the last glacial inter glacial cycle: a three-dimensional experiment. Annals of Glaciology, 14, 115–119.
IPCC, 1996: Climate Change 1995: The Science of Climate Change. Houghton, J. T., L. G. Meira Filho, B. A. Callander, N. Harris, A. Kattenberg, and K. Maskell (eds.), Contribution of WGI to the Second Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Cambridge University Press, Cambridge, UK, 572 pp.
Ledley, T. S., 1991: Snow on sea ice: competing effects in shaping climate. J. Geophys. Res., 96, 17,195–17,208.
Ledley, T. S., 1993: Variations in snow on sea ice: a mechanism for producing climate variations. J. Geophys. Res., 98(D6), 10,401–10,410.
Lynch-Stieglitz, M., 1994: The development and validation of a simple snow model for the GISS GCM. J. Climate, 7, 1842–1855.
Martin, S., K. Steffen, J. Comiso, D. Cavalieri, M. R. Drinkwater, and B. Holt, 1992: Microwave remote sensing of polynyas. In: Carsey, F. D. (ed.), Microwave remote sensing of sea ice, Washington, DC, American Geophysical Union, 1992, 303–311.
Meier, M. F., 1984: Contribution of small glaciers to global sea level rise. Science, 226, 1418–1421.
Parkinson, C. L., J. C. Comiso, H. J. Zwally, D. J. Cavalieri, P. Gloersen, and W. J. Campbell, 1987: Arctic Sea Ice, 1973–1976: Satellite Passive-Microwave Observations, NASA SP-489, National Aeronautics and Space Administration, Washington, D.C., 296 pp.
Paterson, W. S. B., 1993: World sea level and the present mass balance of the Antarctic ice sheet. In: W.R. Peltier (ed.), Ice in the Climate System, NATO ASI Series, I12, Springer-Verlag, Berlin, 131–140.
Robinson, D. A., K. F. Dewey, and R. R. Heim, 1993: Global snow cover monitoring: an update. Bull. Amer. Meteorol. Soc., 74, 1689–1696.
Steffen, K., and A. Ohmura, 1985: Heat exchange and surface conditions in North Water, northern Baffin Bay. Annals of Glaciology, 6, 178–181.
Van den Broeke, M. R., 1996: The atmospheric boundary layer over ice sheets and glaciers. Utrecht, Universities Utrecht, 178 pp.
Van den Broeke, M. R., and R. Bintanja, 1995: The interaction of katabatic wind and the formation of blue ice areas in East Antarctica. J. Glaciology, 41, 395–407.
Welch, H. E., 1992: Energy flow through the marine ecosystem of the Lancaster Sound region, Arctic Canada. Arctic, 45, 343.
Fedorov R. Cryogenic Resources: Ice, Snow, and Permafrost in Traditional Subsistence Systems in Russia. // Resources 2019, 8(1), 17, Cryogenic Resources: Ice, Snow, and Permafrost in Traditional Subsistence Systems in Russia

EMsmile (talk) 10:59, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Using excerpts rather?

Most of this article was written in 2006 in this one big edit. Many articles from the climate change group of topics link to this article. I think it's in need of updating but I think we should mostly use excerpts from other articles. E.g. the whole section about permafrost could be replaced with an excerpt from permafrost (a soon to be GA article). Similarly with the content about melting ice sheets and so forth. In general, I would say it's best to keep this article short, and to point readers to the relevant articles that describe the changes that are due to the effects of climate change. Thoughts? EMsmile (talk) 11:16, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've now replaced some of that unsourced or outdated content with excerpts. I think it's better this way. The term "cryosphere" is really just an umbrella term for a lot of "things" for which we have more detailed sub-articles. So this parent article should not go into too much detail itself. EMsmile (talk) 07:49, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging 3 people who I think might have an interest and might like to comment regarding further to-dos with this article: User:Femke, User:InformationToKnowledge and User:Chidgk1 in case they have time to take a quick look at this and comment. Thanks. EMsmile (talk) 07:49, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Considering how at least one of the now-replaced parts was primarily based on a reference that was literally a half-century old, excerpts could have only been an improvement, so I am glad to see that happen!

Otherwise, all the "citation needed" tags are clearly not the way any article should look, but I am not sure if I'll find the time to work on this particular article any time soon. I feel like there are unfortunately still too many significantly flawed articles that are of higher priority. InformationToKnowledge (talk) 18:34, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for taking the time to comment and for agreeing in principle that excerpts are an improvement here. Further work needed (as usual). EMsmile (talk) 09:11, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]