User talk:Scientific Pen

December 2023

Hi Scientific Pen, I'm MrOllie. Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. I noticed that you recently made additions to one or more articles such as Brain–computer interface without citing a reliable source. Please note that all content and edits on Wikipedia are expected to be verifiable in reliable sources. In articles related to medical topics, the standard for content and sourcing is defined at WP:MEDRS, and in your edit you did not include any references that meet that ideal. Please have a look at MEDRS to learn about the quality standards for medical sourcing. You might also want to take a look at WikiProject Medicine. If you have any questions related to sourcing of medical issues, you can ask at the WikiProject Medicine Talk page. For general questions about sourcing, see Wikipedia:Reliable sources. MrOllie (talk) 14:39, 28 December 2023 (UTC) MrOllie (talk) 14:39, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

First of all, thank you for your feedback.

I am a neuroscience graduate student and we are editing the articles assigned to us by our professor within the scope of the "Biotechnology in Neuroscience" course. The resources I use consist of scientific articles on PubMed. Maybe I'm making a mistake somewhere regarding referencing. I would like to explain to you how I show the references so that you can help me.

After pasting my text into the target section, I click on the "ref" section at the bottom left. and I paste the reference I got from the "cite" section on the PubMed site in the middle.

For example; Moreover, the demonstrated potential of electrical neuromodulation strategies in resolving cognitive and memory deficits underscores their significance as a viable therapeutic approach in the ongoing pursuit of enhancing cognitive function and quality of life in individuals affected by dementia. Gruber D, Calmbach L, Kühn AA, Krause P, Kopp UA, Schneider GH, Kupsch A. Longterm outcome of cognition, affective state, and quality of life following subthalamic deep brain stimulation in Parkinson's disease. J Neural Transm (Vienna). 2019 Mar;126(3):309-318. doi: 10.1007/s00702-019-01972-7. Epub 2019 Jan 25. PMID: 30684055.

If there is any error in use, I ask you to help me with this. However, if there is no mistake in my use of references, then I request you not to remove the sections I added.

Sincerely, Scientific Pen (talk) 14:55, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please read the sourcing guideline you've been pointed to above thoroughly. Many articles (most, in fact) that you find on PubMed will not meet the required standards. MrOllie (talk) 15:05, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again,

PubMed is a reliable source and is widely used in article writing. When I look at the current Wikipedia article, I see that there are many PubMed sources. The articles I have selected are current articles and provide information about the latest studies. I thought it would be appropriate to add when the current article does not contain up-to-date information. If my "use of references" is correct, I request you not to intervene. Scientific Pen (talk) 15:41, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No, your "use of references" is not correct, as I told you twice, and am now telling you for a third time. PubMed is an index, not a source. Some articles you will find there will be usable, and many will not. You must read, understand, and follow Wikipedia's sourcing requirements to determine which is which. MrOllie (talk) 15:54, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

I noticed you have been editing some health-related articles, and I wanted to say that a bunch of us hang out at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Medicine. You're welcome to join us if that's an area of editing that interests you. It's a good place to ask questions about finding good sources for medical content or writing style. Feel free to put the group's page on your watchlist, or stop by to say hello some time. WhatamIdoing (talk) 02:16, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I extend my gratitude for your correspondence. I wish to bring to your attention a significant issue I am currently encountering. As a Neuroscience master's student holding a degree in Psychology, I am actively engaged in editing the Binge Eating Disorder article as an integral part of my coursework. Regrettably, the content I meticulously contributed has been removed by an individual who appears to lack expertise in the subject matter of Binge Eating Disorder. I am perplexed by the rationale behind this deletion, as it seems incongruent with the informational and academic standards of the platform. I kindly seek your assistance in resolving this matter. The information I incorporated into the article was diligently researched, and I earnestly request that due consideration be given to reinstating my contributions. Thank you for your prompt attention to this concern.

Sincerely, Scientific Pen (talk) 16:27, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As I have told you several times in the section immediately preceeding this one, your sourcing has to meet the requirements laid out in WP:MEDRS. Single primary studies do not meet these requirements - review articles do. Fix your sourcing and you should have no further issues. MrOllie (talk) 16:31, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I see that you have not carefully investigated my references. Selected articles are shown among the "review" articles. Additionally, there are many resources that I share only as review references. For example; https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29044551/ this article. Why did you delete them? I would also like you to please revise all the sources in the article and delete all articles other than "reviews". Please look carefully and show the same care for other users as you do for me. I will be waiting. Scientific Pen (talk) 16:54, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]