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I was reading the part that says "BSAC instructors are amateurs operating in diving clubs as opposed to professionals operating in diving schools" and feel this is a little unfair. What makes the distinction between amateur and professional in training? If a person pays to be trained does that make them professional where a person who trains from a volunteer becomes an amateur? Would "BSAC instructors are trained volunteers operating in diving clubs not for profit as opposed to trained professionals operating in diving schools for profit" or "BSAC instructors are trained volunteers operating in diving clubs as opposed to trained professionals operating in diving schools"? LtDeath 11:26, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It is not the trainee who is or becomes an amateur or professional; it is the trainer who is the amateur or professional. The distinction between amateur and professional instruction is: amateur instructors do not demand payment for training others while professional instructors do receive payment for training others. BSAC instructors receive training in instruction and must pass tests to achieve their instructor qualification just like professional instructors do. BSAC instructors who operate in dive clubs are amateurs - they are not paid for teaching. BSAC instructors who operate from schools are professionals - they are paid for teaching. Most BSAC instructors operate in clubs.

Normally, members of BSAC dive clubs do not pay for the instruction they receive from courses run by their club's instructors - every member of the club pays a similar membership fee each year whether they need training or not. Trainees often have to pay expenses for those parts of their courses where they use non-teaching resources such as boats, fuel, gas, entrance to dive sites and equipment hire. A minority of BSAC clubs charge a higher rate of membership for unqualified divers, effectively charging them for their initial training, but this is contrary to the ethos of BSAC. Mark.murphy 20:38, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The page sais, "The British Sub-Aqua Club or BSAC is the governing body of recreational diving in Britain.", but I'm pretty sure that BSAC is the governing body in England, Scottish Sub Aqua Club, in Scottland, and I don't know that status of wales, there was talk about BSAC trying to get that role when I was a BSAC membar.

Balp 19:18, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Can I get a consensus on where some of the alternative versions of that acronym should go? One of the most often used is BSAC to mean 'Better Start Another Club'. Lampooning really should be mentioned... —Vanderdecken∴ ∫ξφ 17:32, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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before trying to add the totality of club links, see WP:NOT#LINK for guidance. GraemeLeggett 15:05, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

SAA

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There is no mention here of the breakaway group SAA (Sub Aqua Association), or the reasons for the breakaway. This would provide more comprehensive information. An article on the SAA is also needed! Connor 4 Aug 2010. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.67.149.60 (talk) 21:00, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome, Connor. We do have an article on the Sub-Aqua Association, and you can also get to it from the disambiguation page SAA. Although the reasons for the breakaway are relatively well-known (from both organisations), they don't seem to be documented in reliable sources that I know of. This would be better discussed at Talk:Sub-Aqua Association. I'd be happy to discuss ideas for improving the Sub-Aqua Association article there, but please remember we can only report in Wikipedia what has been previously written in reliable sources. --RexxS (talk) 23:25, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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