Talk:Salah times
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Justification of article
[edit]I didn't create this article, and it seems superfluous for it to exist as the other articles on salat describe the prayer times. However, it would be useful to have an article that summarises all the prayer times. I'm doing what I can to find a balance betwen this dichotomy. MP (talk•contribs) 14:53, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- My feeling is that this is a separate and important topic. Currently the main salat article has more details about salat timings than this one. The timings details from that page should be moved to here, with only a brief reference on the main salat page.
- But really the more important things which need to go on this page are the details of the differences in salat timings in the various madhabs. For example the Casio Salat Times watch offers a choice of 12 fiqh settings appropriate for various cities of the world! There are clearly the four madhab and the shiite timings, but besides them, amongst hanafis, the timings in Turkey are different from Pakistan for example. Whereas in Pakistan the time for Fajr and Isha starts when the sun is 18 degrees below the horizon, the time in Turkey is 18 degrees for Fajr and 17 degree for Isha (I a quoting from memory). In England there are two or three main groups which publish salat times for mosques, with significant differences of opinion.
- Unfortunately I do not have enough info to give details, but this would be a good page to collect such information. I only mention this so because someone might be tempted to delete this page. Please don't. Let us wait until someone more knowledgeable can collect up some more information.
- Another topic (on which I plan to contibute (but it will be about 10 months from now, when I have the time) that fits on this page is how do do the computations (a bit of collected astronomical computations applied to this topic) to figure out the times for a particular locality. Arif Zaman (talk) 09:25, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Cleanup List
[edit]- This page seams a bit clumsy and doesn't flow very well.
- Each Salaat time description is very short, with limited POV detail.
- I would suggest adding more references along with descriptions from various points of view on each timing.
- This includes both the daily prayers, and less often prayers. (IE. EID, and Janaaza are missing quite a bit of detail)
- Some exceptions occur, such as joining dhuhr and asr as some scholars suggest.
- Will this topic only be on Sunni Islam? If not, then much more detail will have to be added. (Or mark it as limited to Sunni Islam)
- I would suggest adding more references along with descriptions from various points of view on each timing.
- The calculations are interesting, but maybe could be spun-off into a sub-page.
- There is only one reference to these calculations, and that page has much more clarity and detail.
- I would suggest that either more sources are integrated into a cleanup of this section/sub-page or replace it with a few links.
SuperS 5 (talk) 05:30, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
Method of calculation
[edit]I propose to remove this section entirely: times of the prayer are based on the sun alone, and the early Muslims whose practice is followed certainly didn't have to worry about the equation of time!
If thought necessary a short paragraph could mention the challenges (and inadequacy?) of translating astronomically-dictated asbāb into civil time, with a link to the Equation of time page - but I don't think it's needed, personally.Eteb3 (talk) 12:43, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
Salah times in places in polar regions
[edit]I'm vaguely aware (not being Muslim myself) that in polar regions, where the sun might not set/rise for months on end, that Muslims generally perform salah based on the nearest town where the salah times can be reasonably calculated. I think this should be added to the article, but I haven't yet found a reliable source that confirms this. Can anyone dredge one up? Edderiofer (talk) 23:58, 28 December 2022 (UTC)