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Monuments

Resolved

Seems there are 2 monument to Columbus in Mexico City. See es:Monumento a Colón (Buenavista, Ciudad de México) and es:Monumento a Colón (Paseo de la Reforma, Ciudad de México). ---Another Believer (Talk) 03:34, 26 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Amuseclio: Thanks for expanding this article. I'm going to separate this article into Monument to Christopher Columbus (Paseo de la Reforma, Mexico City) and Monument to Christopher Columbus (Buenavista, Mexico City), mirroring the two articles at Spanish Wikipedia. ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:37, 3 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

-In am ok with someone splitting the article in two, one for the 1877 and the other the 1892, mirroring the two in Spanish. 98.171.173.73 (talk) 01:11, 4 February 2019 (UTC)User:Amuseclio[reply]

Thanks for confirming. I've forked some content and submitted a move request for this article. ---Another Believer (Talk) 01:26, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
See Monument to Christopher Columbus (Buenavista, Mexico City) and Monument to Christopher Columbus (Paseo de la Reforma, Mexico City). Monument to Christopher Columbus is now a disambiguation page. ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:23, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Current status

@Tbhotch and ProtoplasmaKid: Thanks for updating the article. I hope you'll try share again in the future once the statues are restored. ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:33, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Of course. (CC) Tbhotch 22:38, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Tbhotch, Thanks! For now, I've added a "dagger" to Template:Public art in Mexico City to note the monument is not currently on full public display. List of monuments and memorials removed during the George Floyd protests may need updating, too? ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:47, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Local government insists the monument is merely being restored, but there's speculation about its future because it was unnecessary to remove it. I'd give it a time until something is confirmed. (CC) Tbhotch 22:52, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks to both! ProtoplasmaKid (talk) 18:31, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Fate

The monument won't be returned to Reforma. Instead, a monument celebrating the indigenous woman will replace it. The statue, however, will be moved to Parque Las Américas,[1] apparently in Polanco.(CC) Tbhotch 03:50, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The replacement will be called Tlalli, by Pedro Reyes, and will be unveiled on Columbus Day.[2] (CC) Tbhotch 18:42, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Very helpful, thanks! See the new stub Tlalli. ---Another Believer (Talk) 02:56, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Parque Las Américas, or American Park (Mexico City)? Seems both exist, according to Google Maps. ---Another Believer (Talk) 20:38, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Article title?

What should be the name of this article, if the statue is no longer installed along Paseo de la Reforma? ---Another Believer (Talk) 20:37, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I was thinking that Monument to Christopher Columbus (Polanco, Mexico City) would be a good option to contrast it against "Buenavista, Mexico City". Monument to Christopher Columbus (American Park, Mexico City) can work as a redirect. (CC) Tbhotch 18:35, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
OK! Feel free to move at your convenience, or I can if you prefer. ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:36, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Although, now that I think about it, perhaps we should wait until the statue is actually installed in Polanco? ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:39, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, technically speaking, the monument still installed at Paseo de la Reforma. I thought they would install Tlalli by October 12, but Reyes said it will be most likely installed until February. I don't know if Columbus will be relocated on his date, because they still need to remove the base. (CC) Tbhotch 19:02, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
OK, sounds good, best we wait since the memorial is still clearly more associated with Paseo de la Reforma. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:04, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"Roundabout to the Striving Women" demonstration

[3] I don't know if it is relevant. (CC) Tbhotch 02:07, 26 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]