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This article was tagged for speedy deletion under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion but a reviewing administrator or uninvolved experienced editor declined the request on the basis that: The article as it currently exists makes at least a claim of significance or notability. This might well need to be supported by sources to survive at AFD, but this is not an A7 speedy delete candidate. DES(talk)16:33, 16 December 2009 (UTC). This article should not be tagged again for speedy deletion under the same criterion and, unless a valid, separate speedy deletion basis exists, further attempts at deleting this article should be made via the proposed deletion process (prod) if uncontroversial, or the article taken to articles for deletion (AfD) for debate on the merits.[reply]
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In general you are correct. But articles often start based upon a single source of limited quality or based upon primary sources. The solution is to search for and add additional sources and information derived from those sources, not to delete, and particularly not to speedy-delete, articles for which such sources can in fact be found. DES(talk)17:02, 16 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I looked and found nothing of note. The article has been around for three years it is not a new starter. The third ref does not support the claim in the text and is just a trivial mention that is of no use here. Since when has someone doing a job (butcher, baker, journalist, film editor) been notable? Lame Name (talk) 17:08, 16 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
If you really think this person is not notable, take it to AFD. This is not an A7 speedy. Notablity is probably marginal, but there appears to have been at least some national media coverage, which is IMO enough to pass the GNG. It is surely enough to avoid a speedy or a Prod. DES(talk)17:19, 16 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The Boston Globe ref supports the existence of the documentary, and that a major newspaper considered it significant enough to quite from it. The IMDB ref is a third-party source establishing the existence of the documentary and that Peter Kowalke was in fact the producer and editor. DES(talk)17:23, 16 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Is anyone questioning that it was not a speedy delete? Is anyone questioning that the person or the film exist? Just because something exists it does not mean it is notable. I have a shelf in front of me containing several books by Dori Smith but there is no Wikipedia article about her. Lame Name (talk) 19:21, 16 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You tagged it for a speedy delete so obviously you thought is was subject to speedy deletion. I question that -- i thik it is clearly not a speedy. I grant that notability is more than existence. There seems to have been at least one NY Times article on this person, but the NYTimes archives are not available online free of charge after a limited time -- so this would take library research. I think that the notability here is borderline, but the article should not be deleted without community consensus. The person seems to be notable at elast within a limited activist community. DES(talk)22:40, 16 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]