Talk:Editions of Dungeons & Dragons

Improvement on OSR part

The OSR section does not mention recent developments such as the massive success of Old-School Essentials, Lamentations of the Flame Princess or the earlier clones such as Swords & Wizardry.

Nor does it mention the desire to recapture the (since 3e) lost playstyle of a more realistic fantasy world, where you use your wit to survive and your actions have greater impact on the campaign, world and story. Where a player has more freedom to act, is more involved and their decisions have more bearing. Also the DM has greater freedom to shape the game. 86.52.110.159 (talk) 10:26, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

It's a brief mention as those aren't actual editions of D&D. There is an article on Dungeons & Dragons retro-clones and the general article on the OSR. Anything more than a passing mention is inappropriate for this article as they're outside the scope of this article, whichis about official editions only. oknazevad (talk) 10:38, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

I'm not sure how much we should be covering OSR here since it is not an actual edition of D&D as opposed to emulating older editions. BOZ (talk) 10:45, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

One D&D Compatibility

@Arctic.gnome and Oknazevad: In terms of how to classify One D&D, I agree with Arctic that One D&D should be listed with 5E as compatible. Secondary sources talk about the playtest as backward compatible. Perhaps the final form won't actually be compatible but that would speculation on our parts so we should go with what the sources state. Sariel Xilo (talk) 01:05, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

Respectfully, I don't think backwards compatibility is the sole determining factor to look at when determining whether to list it as a separate edition. AD&D 2nd Ed is highly backwards compatible with 1st Ed, which itself is largely backwards compatible with OD&D (when all expansions to the latter are included). In fact, all TSR editions, including all four versions of Basic D&D, are mostly compatible with each other to a large extent. But they're still considered separate editions, and correctly so. It's in part presentation; 3.5 was explicitly described as a revised version of the 3rd edition, and is presented as such, even though the differences mechanically were on par with the differences between 1st and 2nd Eds. They may go with entirely new presentation of branding/logos/etc, or they may try to make it look as close to the 5e books as they can, calling it 5e revised. We don't know. Which is why I think we need to wait before we rule it as part of 5th Ed. oknazevad (talk) 01:16, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

Just want to flag that during the D&D Creator Summit (April 3), Wizards stated that they were moving away from the working title "One D&D". They (Jeremy Crawford, Chris Perkins, etc) emphasized a lot that it is a revision and not a new edition; 2014 & 2024 classes could be played together in the same game & all adventures would be compatible. The terms they used a bunch were "revising 5e", "2024 Core Rule Revision", 2014 X vs 2024 X (ie. 2014 PHB vs 2024 PHB). I'm sure we'll see articles in the next few days that pull together something more coherent than all the various attendees live tweeting. Sariel Xilo (talk) 06:56, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Right. 5.5, which I more or less expected. That said, no official final name has been released, and "One D&D" was only ever a playtest working title (much as 5e was tested under the "D&D Next" working title) and was never going to be the final product's branding. So I don't think we need to use it as a header here. Could easily just leave it as "revision" and be good with that. oknazevad (talk) 12:47, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

D&D Edition 4 & Pathfinder

One thing not mentioned in the description of Edition 4 is that the changes were so radical, the game became a high-level combat-heavy game, with too many of the favourite classes and races eliminated, and the reaction was that about half the D&D community dropped Wizards' version like a hot rock and switched to Pathfinder, which was based on an improved Ed.3.5. Nomicai (talk) 05:02, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Source? Woodroar (talk) 18:35, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

actual editions

Game companies are poor in contrast to book publshers noting editions. In fact, B/X was D&D 2E; BECMI was D&D 3E; Rules Cyclopedia (and Wrath of The Immortals) was D&D 4E, and when AD&D rules dropped 'advanced' so reverted to the original name, continuing numbering from that, it was 5E ('3E') and continued to 6E ('4E') and 7E ('5E'). dchmelik☀️🦉🐝🐍(talk|contrib) 11:14, 17 February 2024 (UTC)